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Zed

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"Done" versus "Giving Up"
« on: January 20, 2015, 06:37:17 pm »
Hi Jed,
Greetings etc ...,
I'm finding that I have no more questions to be asked/answered by "me", or the "I" has just lost complete interest in questioning anymore.
Is there a distinction between "done"  and "**** this I have enough of this ****", (=giving up) ,time for the next cartoon....
I believe that I have passed the despair/agonising waypoints, and am staring at the expansive void of BLEH (land of ignorance or not knowing).
I see that all of this is stemming from my ego but kinda feel like I'm looking at it from afar.....
I still seem to be drawn to topics/media/books etc of an "inquiry" nature , but  progressively finding them Boring unless they resonate with a particular mood I'm in...
I've started to look into Shamanism lately for the fun of it as a recent trip to Peru whacked me senseless. (Flashback)
Oh well whatever ya think.
Thank you,(Mayan style),
Z
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Jed McKenna

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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2015, 07:23:28 pm »
Dear ZedL

Giving up, at least on this quest, is a step, but only that. It's not T/R, but I have seen it be an excellent indicator that you are letting go of your illusion of control. I'm not totally sure in your case.

In my experience, giving up needs to be full and sincere... a bit like being pregnant. No half ass giving up will do. The old, let go and let God, or just realize that it's completely hopeless. But, you haven't given up yet, you are dabbling with it.

Do what you wish, but I would suggest you are the most hopeless, dismal, likely-to-fail at this, person that I have ever known. Only a fool would proceed on this trail and you are not stupid, of that I am quite sure.

So, do the smart thing, burn baby, burn.

Love ya, Jed.
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Jed McKenna

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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2015, 03:57:35 am »
Hi Zed:

I buried forum rules, they include no links, Youtubes and the like.

Love ya, Jed.
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Zed

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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 05:01:42 am »
No problemo Jed man,

Hate to be a squeeler but you're gonna have to bury the youtube video in the topic "Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego" also I guess?

Back to my question....

what is the "this", in "fail at this", you speak of in your reply? Is it tangible? Is it even real?

Love ya long time,
Zed
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Jed McKenna

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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 08:34:30 am »
Hi Zed:

Regarding my 'Rants', they are a little more lenient. You can post a link there. And a bit of cross-talk is permitted. My previous forum had no rules intentionally as an experiment. Was pretty bad, so I am the forum Nazi here.

Regarding your question, Ì have assisted and observed a good number of people in their endeavors and the problem is that you think you can do it and you can't. In fact, the more you that's involved the less chance of it happening. But obviously, you have to do something to sorta move things along. One of them is for you to admit your are an absolute failure at this, there is no power resident in the you that is trying so hard. And, do not expect any of this to make sense. Truth does not make sense, only illusion makes sense, but only to an illusory mind.

There is you all you need to know, really. Now just go find out who is inquiring, what is aware and what is True. You won't be able to think your way there, but you will have to do some thinking anyways because that's what humans do.

Love ya, Jed.
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Zed

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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2015, 05:22:49 pm »
Emm hello ... Regarding my question... Ya still haven't answered it! C'mon baby you can so it!
No more stock answers now... What is "this" ?
Maybe I'm your guru !
Z
Love ya long time :-)
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Zed

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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2015, 05:45:26 pm »
For those who want to know the vid link... Band call Ash... Song called burn baby burn....
**** is This allowed ???
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Zed

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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2015, 06:17:45 pm »
Truth does make sense Jeddy boy... Untruth doesnt ... By your own admission...
Now less of your minions replying
Kiss kiss kiss
And all of that
Love ya long time
Z
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Zed

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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2015, 06:23:30 pm »
Truth does make sense.... Untruth is illusory... Jeekers I'm starting to sound like you in reverse!  But maybe that's it  ??? :-*
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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2015, 09:51:40 pm »
Dear Zed:

Your words sum it up quite well, but they are only words. Meaningless until we imagine they mean something and then  we imagine they mean the same thing to everyone. Geez, that's b.s. if I ever heard it. Impossible.

But none of this matters. All that matters is you experience. It's the only thing that you could ever be an authority on. The only thing that interest me is what are you experiencing, right now. Not in your past or future, what is your experience right now. Look and see, hear and feel. If you can't find words for it, great, don't think you have to. Experiencing you thoughts is not the experience I am speaking about. That's illusion experiencing illusion.

Look and see... then ponder ''what is looking, what is seeing, what is sensing this''. Awareness is the only thing that can look at itself, no mirror required.

Love ya, Jed.
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Zed

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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 04:02:28 pm »
Yo Jed,
You say regarding my experience...

"Look and see, hear and feel. "

You see I've contemplated that before but with the following scenario in place...
Born blind, deaf and dumb  and a chunk of brain damage preventing  me from having  "feelings". How would awareness fit in here.? Exactly the same. So you see that's all there is, awareness. Experience is created and destroyed. Awareness  (like energy)can be neither created nor be destroyed, but it can change form.
"My" awareness is irrelevant because it's making personal when it is anything but.

Love ya long time,
Zed
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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 11:46:44 pm »
How does your awareness become personalized?

Love ya, Jed.
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Zed

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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2015, 01:37:09 am »
By attaching an ego to it ....

Love ya long time,
Zed
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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2015, 05:38:29 pm »
Paul Hedderman and Stephen Hawking say it better than me... But words only go so far. As you say Jed it's "my" experience that says it best....

Love ya long time,
Zed

Ps do I contradict myself ? :-) **** it I do ! Lol
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Re: "Done" versus "Giving Up"
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2015, 09:20:07 pm »
Dear Zed:

You have a rebellious edgy persona, now use it ruthlessly on you illusions of self. You are on the edge, jump is you want.

Love ya, Jed.
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