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Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« on: August 31, 2014, 06:58:13 pm »
Maybe done-hood can be achieved via pursuing adult-hood?  I don't know, really.  I feel compelled to look more and more closely, without categorization...and things shift under that gaze...become gauzey and wispy...and, simultaneously, more magical.  And then I step back into the machinery of my life, with some sustain from those moments of silent gazing, and there's some space amongst the cogs for a little while....space within which to stretch and breathe.  And that feels like some steps toward adult-hood.  Seeing life with a sense of spaciousness that seems to be the fundamental core of this whole dream.  But, to follow that track all the way home?  Well, I've tried...and get way-laid every time.  I get distracted, diverted, restless...whatever, you name it.  So maybe done-hood is out of my reach, I'll acknowledge it.  But, maybe not!  Who cares...steps towards adult-hood have always felt like steps in the right direction.....and "life" is better for it.  I'm still interested in done-hood though...because that's what's over the horizon, crow's fly in the direction I'm stepping.  Who knows what awaits if I keep stepping in that direction.

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2014, 07:35:12 pm »
*reading above*

Sorry, that was all a bit flowery wasn't it?  Here's why I'm here.  I have the feeling I may have something in me which could lend itself to seriousness about TR....or, at the very least, about making some sustainable gains into HA.....but I have trouble with the "sustain" part.  I've dabbled, in my own personal efforts, and like the "taste" of it...I like the way "it" feels when I'm honing in on consciousness, pure and simple.  I like the energy and intensity and, even, the intermittent sense of awe of it, at the most unlikely-est of times...awe at the way things feel just living and breathing around me...things previously taken for granted.  So, I've done some work....I've seen and felt and have cultivated something of a value for what it is I'm after...why I'm here.   But, I must say it....I historically suck at sticking to anything.  It may very well be an insoluble flaw...my laziness...my lack of sustained interest.  But there's only one way to find out.  To give it the best possible shot and see what happens. 

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2014, 01:00:36 am »
Hi there: Read it, got it, now what do you want from me (he said as if he could ever give you anything).

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2014, 08:07:14 am »
Brass tacks....nice!

Ok, here's what I want.  I want you to help me learn to sustain focus...until I burn through.  Until I cut through to the empty core.  I think I know how to focus....or, rather the kind of focus necessary....I think.  I've been dabbling with that focus for many years now, and it's time to quit f*cking around, is what something inside me is saying.  I've been playing around with that focus..and, yes, it certainly can bring some of the more fringey/outrageous aspects of Maya's amusement park to light...some cool experiences, which I've enjoyed.  But, the truth of it is that I know why I've been introduced to that focus...and it's to use it to cut all the way through.  I just don't know how to gather the inner fortitude/fierceness or whatever necessary to focus on bringing that blade down, again and again, to that spot through which a merciful kill will result. I make a few determined hacks...and then, soon shy away to indulge, for "a little while longer" in the solace of the self.  I wake up for a moment....to soon roll over, flip over to the cool side of the pillow, and then go back to sleep.  I've done this about a billion times.....and I'm afraid of myself....how good I've gotten at it.....going back to sleep.  Distraction is my nemesis.... and it's kicked my ass for years.  Can you help me find a way to sustain that focus necessary to cut through?  I don't know how to get past what's been thwarting me for so long

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2014, 08:16:23 am »
Dear A/H:

I wish there was something I could give you (Bart Simpson's drug, Supressitall is quite good but difficult to get). Maybe trick yourself with distractions that are a part of the game, i.e., a distraction what might some how benefit you peripherally. Contemplation and meditation can take many forms, almost any form.

You are not experiencing anything unusual. I hear the same story frequently. Cracking the egg will get easier and easier, and just trust that one day, poof, all gone, you and the egg.

Let me know how it goes. Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2014, 08:32:10 am »
Tried Supressitall.....gave me the trots :D 

Guess I'll have to do it the old fashioned way....the axe grinding way.  But wait.......Yes!!!  I've had that impression...about using distractions in a more intelligent way....to use the  transmogrifier instead of fighting with them head on, beating my head against the wall.  To transform them from the inside out....or something like that....*BOINK!*  I'll try that for awhile.  I really want to make a run at this....and I can't do the whole SuperZen-sit-and-stare-at-a-wall-until-it-all-dissolves approach.  I have try to do this amidst all the stuff I've become embroiled in.....job, husband/father-hood....the typical American life stuff.

Have you every had anyone cut through right smack in the midst of their "daily lives".   Without leaving everything to go sit on a farm in Iowa?  I guess I just want to know that it can be done :)

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2014, 08:43:49 am »
Yes, I've heard of those unanticipated and embarrassing side effects. Maybe set some time for a discipline, but make it short and quit before you're finished, then jump to the next thing and end it prematurely. Get to the distraction before it gets to you. Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2014, 09:43:46 am »
Quit before I'm finished...and move on to the next thing...and the next..and the next.  I think I get it....stay moving, all the while taking that adaptable, "welcoming" yet sustained focus with me from "thing" to "thing".  Embrace the compulsion to distraction...with my awareness.  And transform it with that embrace.

ha HA!  That's genius! :D  Totally fits my style, which is ADD to the max.  Which just means that I like near constant movement of my attention from this to that (which is why I get into video games, which is often one of those distracting elements when I sit and play in it too long)

I'm stoked, man!....thanks a bunch :)  I've found a good place here, to give it all the best possible chance.  I've got to work within my tendencies.....and find a way to sustain my focus within that to hone a discipline that doesn't feel compelled to try to force it through boredom....even though boredom, I guess, is inevitable every once and a while

Anyways, I will give this a go...this technique.  Can I report findings here...kind of chronical progress?  Or should that be kept private and elsewhere, saving this place for questions?  Whatever you want here, I'm game. Thanks again, mon frère.  Love to you! :D

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2014, 10:19:49 am »
Dear Almost Adult:

Thanks for the feedback. Try it and please let me know how it goes. Your topic... write as thou wilt.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2014, 04:35:38 pm »
Ok...so experimenting a little today with my task.....kind of rolling it around, goofing off with the dials...calibrating here and there.  Setting aside time to sit and gaze and just kind of focus in on the substance...the meat...of consciousness.  I used to time these silent sessions, to get a daily quota under my belt or whatever....but now I see a new way (thanks Jed!)...sitting still for a bit and then when the urge to move comes in, get moving...but the intent is to keep that central consciousness front and center and kind of observe where it wants to go when it wants to get away.  What is it?  That's kind of the question that's the impetus behind the focus....where is it coming from?  My awareness....awareness?  Where is it?  It just seems to be kind of here...so I'll just try to sit right smack in the middle of it and stay here...see what happens.  Need to go play some Battlefield 4 on my Playstation....get a sense of movement...doing something...getting busy, even if only by remote control?  Go for it...but keep that central inquisitiveness at play while I'm playing....the "what is it" of my awareness...the form and shape of it.  The buzz of it.  Need to sprawl on the floor, if I'm whipped...dead tired?  No probz.  Sprawl I will do...but I can take that endeavor to awareness with me, right there on the floor.  Doing chores?  Going to work?  Interacting with my wife and kids?  Anywhere...ANYwhere.....the question goes with me, right here and now.  What is it?  What IS it?  What is this?

I remember when I was a kid, I would pick a word, sitting there in my room...and I would say that word over and over and over again...sometimes out loud...sometimes silently within.  And, pretty soon, the familiarity....the feeling of meaning of the word....would start to unravel...and it would create the strangest sensation, that unraveling.  Sometimes I would do it while staring at my reflection in a mirror....and the same would happen in terms of a sense of familiarity with the "me" I saw in the mirror.  It kind of freaked me out....but, then again, I kind of like that sensation of being freaked out in that way...the sense of being grounded in the self suddenly start slipping away.

The focus I'm after maybe has something to do with that game I played as a kid...but instead of a word....or my reflection.....I want to play that game with the whole feeling of the self....the sense of encapsulated consciousness that feels familiar within comfortable boundaries.  Just hone in on, over and over and over and over and over again, that awareness of self...until it unravels.  I want to see what's under the covers :)

So, today...playing with that...but loosening up the whole parameters of "my practice" and what that's supposed to look like.  I'm all over the place.....so then all over the place is where I'll practice..where I'll focus that questioning awareness.

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2014, 09:19:02 pm »
Well, I guess we're allowed to spam our own thread, to a certain degree.  I trust, Jed, you will redirect or urge to press "pause"...or "shut the f*ck up" as needed.  Just a couple more findings, in a days' investigation.

So, what I've noticed...and I've noticed this before...is the distinct difference in timbre between engaging meditative silence when pursuing altered states of consciousness, which is what I've done a bunch of in the past, and when pursuing (or at least when I think I'm pursuing) TR.  The timbre of seeking mystical/altered states when engaging inner silence has a nice feeling of blissfulness to it...which, being something of a bliss-ninny, I really like.  Let me be clear here...I like feeling good...and I don't like feeling bad.  And there is a strong primal reflex in me to avoid, whenever possible, things that make me feel bad.  So, it's funny that I'm here with what I feel is honest intention to cut through and see things as they really are...because when I meditate/engage silence with the goal of cutting through as the driving force...well, the sensation is distinctly not-blissful.  The sensation is a little unnerving....and a little more than unpleasant.  It is not a happy feeling is what I'm saying.  I'm sure I'm making mountains out of mole hills...I mean, for god's sakes I haven't even really started....but I'm just shining the light on one of the aspects of what has derailed my meager steps towards TR in the past...and that is the feeling that whole buckets of said same similar unpleasantness awaits, and I'm not sure I can face it.  I know the only way is through..and that unpleasantness is a deep seated part of "me" fighting for its survival (and who can blame it?!)....but I really don't know how to "embrace/welcome" that feeling...the sense of repulsion is so strong...to anything reeking of dysphoria.  But I'm here...so, something in me must be saying...."there is a way"

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2014, 12:09:14 am »
Dear BG: Yes, you are here for the time being and it will benefit you, I hallucinate. You will benefit from letting to, non-attachment to both bliss and bad feelings. Each a trap in itself. None better than the other. Go to the other side of both and start small. It's a bit of a muscle that we have never developed well. Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2014, 05:48:58 am »
Word.

"Start small"....I'll start with the stirrings of crampy intestinal gas, which is the down-side of Labor Day's food-fest.  And then, conversely, the weird, transitory feeling of wary "happiness" (to be short-lived, I'm sure) in feeling I'm truly setting off down the road with perhaps some guidance from someone who I know has been down that road himself.  I'm not sure what going to the other side of these good and bad feelings is, but I'll take a close look and see if the insight emerges, from the context of TR....from abiding in that perennial "allowing" state.

Start small....and that means today...back to work, in an environment with loads of egomania flying around, and mine caught in the scrimmage.  Work has always been a free-for-all kind of interplay between my fear of others...the perceived harshness of others' attention...and the relief when I feel something other than that harshness...friendship or even simply neutral attention.  Both are traps, I see.  Somewhere beyond this feeling of bouncing back and forth between my perceived acceptance and my perceived rejection is a bigger Truth..something which is just beyond all that.  And I want to find it and merge with it.  For now, though...just watching myself get tossed in the waves of fear.  Which I despise, I'll be honest.  I hate feeling fear more than anything else on this planet.  Well, gastroenteritis is a close second :)  But I think fear is the worst. 

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2014, 08:07:08 am »
Thanks Boney:

Keep in mind, fear is just the manifestation off resistance. Watch, listen and learn, but not from me, from you.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Adult-hood...or Done-hood.....fork in the road
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2014, 10:08:26 am »
Fear = resistance...yeah, that feels right.  I've been in a near-constant clamp-down since I was a shaver.  I can see it's going to take awhile to release the kung-fu grip and just embrace whatever emerges amidst that space that's always around me.  I've made some progess.....I'm not the sweaty, alcoholic, walking wad of sphincter-tetany I used to be...and that's been due to some serious self observation and lots of heavy breathing/reluctant letting go.  Not pretty.  Why stop, though?  When there's more?  Might as well continue, wtf.  Here's to "further, forevermore" *clink*