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Jed McKenna

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2017, 11:53:52 pm »
You will have to contact WFP yourself.

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2017, 09:06:00 am »
Ok Mr McKenna, i will do it.

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2017, 04:36:44 am »
Good!

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2017, 09:07:44 pm »
Mr Jed, you have closed ALL doors that I belive were the way out from the dream to the truth.
I belived that total surrender was the way out, and now you say that total surrender is still in the dream but it makes it more fun.
I belived also that be in "the now" was the way out of the dream state, but you say in your books that "the now" do not exist.
I belived that "stop thinking" was the way out, you say "no"
I know that you say that the Spiritual Autolisis is the door, but I have made it and I havenīt found anything true, i have found that I am nothing, only a body feeling, living, no more or less than a fly or a dog or a rat.
I canīt accept that I am so little, almost nothing, I belived that I will find something  great at the end of the autolisys. but no.
I am now in the middle of nowhere, I know that all my life was a lie, was a stupid game, a rat race to nowhere.
Please show me the exit door (if there is one)
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Jed McKenna

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2017, 12:05:27 am »
The challenge is you did everything with an expectation, that you might get something, that something would change, that you would realize this or that.

You CANNOT imagine T/R, you CANNOT experience T/R, everything you expect it to be is not it because you can only expect that which is generated by mind and experience through mind. Truth has nothing to do with mind and you expectations are sufficient to blind you to what actually is.

Relax, breathe and let everything just be. Why not, it isn't anything anyways.

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2018, 01:42:48 pm »
Hello Mr. Jed
I have realized or understood without any doubt that I live in another dimension created by the mind,
a world of ideas, thoughts, rules, goals and meaning.
In this world all is imaginary, it only exist in my mind.
but I see also another world, the real world, where my body really exist, where I am not more than an animal looking for something to eat.
My question is: Is my body also a creation of my mind, is my body only another idea or belif?
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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2018, 03:24:55 am »
If you are seeing a body, or thinking you have one, or perhaps feeling it, the you tell me who is making that experience up.

The thing that is pretty much ungraspable is that true T/R requires the letting go of everything because anything you are holding on to is blocking the way. T/R has a delicateness to it that is very easily blocked by your beliefs and expectations.

Students read such words and say/think something like... Crap Jed. what will be left... nothing? That's close but there was only nothing to start with so what's the big deal. This is were you might here someone who has T/R say that it is surprisingly ordinary, kind of flat but not in an unpleasant way. Anyone who says it's full of fireworks and bliss is just passing gas. The "real deal'' lies beyond that. Screw bliss, go right on through it. Easy to say and hard to do. It's where most students get stuck, often for a lifetime.

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2018, 12:51:22 pm »
I am making the experience, I the thinker.

If the self is a lie, then everything the self experience is also a lie?
everything I see, feel, hear, touch is also a lie?

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2018, 03:29:09 am »
YES, YES and DOUBLE YES... what do you think I have been teaching for the last two thousand years?

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2018, 06:23:06 pm »
Hello Mr. Jed

I see that conciousness is the central point of all this journey.
I see some "attention" prior to mind in every experience, that I think is what you call conciousness.
BUT, how can I be sure this is conciousness and not another thought or another thing created by the mind?
I donīt want to be fooled by my mind again.
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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2018, 05:33:30 pm »
Who is asking all these questions?
My false self, he (I) want to know everything.
For his (my) survival he must keep thinking no matter what, but never stop thinking...
 how to get enlightened, when, why...
all this thinking is gas for his engine.
I am already enlightened, only I have to stop worring about enlightenment and all the other worries in my life.

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2018, 06:20:49 pm »
Enlightenment is quit searching,
quit searching everything... happiness, richness, success, knowledge, enlightenment, love...
and even quit the desire to reach the "quit searching state"

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2018, 09:08:35 am »
Yes, but easier said than done....

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2018, 09:13:29 pm »
Everything is so confusing.
I donīt  know where illusion ends and begins reality.
Everything I thought was "real" is not real,  even myself.
My question is:
Is there something alive? or everything is unreal and dead?
life exists? or there is only conciousness?

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Re: Belive in something
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2018, 03:00:13 am »
Does it really matter? Really?

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