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Jed McKenna

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Re: Burn
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2019, 01:14:46 am »
EXCELLENT, and remember the follow up to any answer... is that true?

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P.S. You make me proud... and that ain't easy.

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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2019, 04:31:48 am »
I enjoyed your answer yesterday the whole day through.
If there is something special in life then it is this invisible embrace from true nature.
Cogito ergo sum => I am thinking so I am.
Is this true?
(I dive in deeply for some self-inquiry).

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Re: Burn
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2019, 05:04:12 am »
Sounds simple and logical, but who is thinking? Really? What indeed is thinking as opposed to regurgitating? What is meant by ''I am?''. Are you really... how would you prove that? Keep in mind that going sane can appear the opposite in our world. Further.

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2019, 05:20:41 am »
Ok, further!
Cogito ergo sum. I read a quote from Buddha today: "With our thoughts we make the world".
There's something wrong with it. Obviously. Do WE think?
I guess people interpret Cogito-ergo-sum personally like: "People think so they are".
Just a little self-inquiry shows this cannot be true. No-one ever has thought a thought. It's some kind of instinctively programming going on. How do animals manage their lifes? How do they "know" what to do next? Humans think they are different but is it true? They got the impression of free will. But what if that also is part of the programming?
If I am not the thinker of my thoughts (which can be checked easily), is it possible that I have ever done anything wrong?

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2019, 11:42:45 am »
Buddha quotes can be good, and some are very limiting. Remember, you are never going to get one that's 100% accurate. They have gone through many translations and iterations. Take what you want, leave the rest behind.

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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2019, 08:54:44 am »
Good hint. Better "kill" the Buddhas than to follow blind. And what can we know what was really told to the world with them?
Back to the question: What is meant by "I am"?
If I look around I see many costumes, masks, scenery, settings. And it looks like the masks can think, decide, do a lot. Usually driven by beliefs that it is important not to lose this or that (or to get that and this). That's the way the spectacle goes.
These masks are like marionettes. Can a marionette think? No. So who or what is thinking? Who or what is wearing the masks? Or if seen like a virtual spectacle, a dream, who or what is the dreamer? Are there many dreamers, many actors?
If I look behind the curtain what do I see? I cannot find anyone. Only true nature really exists, nothing else.
I am so I am. "I am" is true nature, the one and only, pure awareness.
Is that true?
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Re: Burn
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2019, 01:12:24 am »
Nothing is true, only an appearance in a dream, however, Truth does exist. Truth has nothing to do with what appears as ''true''.

What you said appears to be true, but it is not Truth. Put all that you say aside and just be, as best you can.

Patience, breathe, and just be.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2019, 04:07:45 am »
Nothing is true in this appearing world. Truth is absent (though nothing could appear without it).
Thank you very much for your appreciated feedback.
Regarding this dreamt character I had to believe for very long that I have to work hard to deserve a good living. And these roots are still not fully deactivated in this body-mind. Though Life showed my this cannot be "true". It works much better this way: "Patience, breathe and just be as best as I can". Give it over to this "higher" intelligence.

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Re: Burn
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2019, 01:15:02 am »
 ;) ;) ;) ;) :-*

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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2019, 04:01:42 am »
Today one of those different thoughts came to my mind:
This person, I am used to think I am (and all other persons) is an expression of love.
However it is appearing. Pain is the expression if the person is seemingly disconnected from love. Happiness if it feels connected.
Is that true?

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Re: Burn
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2019, 04:26:15 am »
Don't confuse pain with suffering... remember the difference  ??? ??? ???

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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2019, 03:56:37 am »
Hm, what have I written? Yes, pain that comes and goes is very normal in life and necessary to scrap things out of the organism. Suffering is like chronic pain due to an impeded natural process.
Is it possible that this happens if it is clear that every person is an expression of love? Which means that not the person is expressing love but used like an beloved instrument to express love?

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Re: Burn
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2019, 11:09:05 am »
I don't understand you questions. Please say it another way. Keep in mind that the ''person'' is a fiction, and fictions can only express fiction. Just the way it's being dreamed.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Burn
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2019, 11:47:23 am »
Excuse me, Jed, sometimes my words are a little complicated. Can't get rid of that habit.
Ok, I take your words to ask it in another way: Fictions can only express fiction which means there is no-one who is expressing anything. The fiction of a person living and experiencing whatever is the expression, or sometimes just a servant for expression.
Suffering (in my eyes) is not really a direct expression of the one and only love. It's a natural reaction to show disconnection in the system via lasting pain. Red alert so to say. Something has to change.
So the question is: Can suffering happen in the dream if the dreamt character is connected to the so called dreamer?
(If no, it would be a good motivation for those who suffer to visit this forum  :))


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Re: Burn
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2019, 09:07:09 pm »
Even a deep understanding of the dreamt and the dreamer will do much to nullify suffering. Are you suffering? You realize that suffering is only a story that things should be different than they are??? don't you???

Suffering is a Class One motivator and to be embraced with love.

Cheers.