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bratyc

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Can we live without syntax?
« on: July 26, 2017, 07:20:11 am »
Good day, Jed!  Tonight I read first book and then found forum to ask something.

After we lost value and importance of semantic and syntactic systems coordinate of the human world, how and where can we find reference points to support further existence in this disordered flow of energetic (and not so energetic) facts, into which we dive? How learn to swim and not get lost in this chaos? How survive further, as an embodied being? How do not despair from the lack of direction and aim and do not buy one way ticket for disintegration in Void? Are there any effective practices for adaptive structuring devastated consciousness. "Adaptive" in that sence, that it must be, I suppose, some higher, external to us order - some laws of existence independent of our meanings and lexics, such as,  for example, gravitation or enegry conservation law. Or it is possible live without any syntax at all? If so, tell how? If no, how to build another syntax? Several years already I don't know how behave to feel good among people and be usefull in their "word" world.. 

Thank you and sorry for my English, for I feel it isn't good enough for such a specific theme (but I suppose you can see through any language reference points).
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Jed McKenna

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Re: Can we live without syntax?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2017, 08:20:22 am »
Dear B:

Welcome to the forum... what has you asking that question? Are you trying to figure it out? How about a little faith in that it just seems to work out. Try to set a path or describe what is beyond description is really just digging a deeper hole. Stop digging is my advice. Your intellect failed you a long time ago but you are reluctant to admit it.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Can we live without syntax?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2017, 06:18:27 am »
Thank you, dear Jed, for the timely turn in the opposite direction). We can digging from here-and-now and up to lunch, and then again do not digging ... why not?) The product of perception is a thin, though quite strong layer among the boundless fields of the dark energy of the knowable and unknowable (nearby 5% if be exact, you know?)))) .. But what if the fate of our species is precisely in this: in enlarging and comprehending this product to create virtual worlds of reason and their implementation? Contrary to the fact that only in that layer of known things we feel most peacefully and comfortable, being merged with the source of bliss .. being at Home. What if our fate is deep cosmos, and not only in mind..? Such (may be) a dead end branch of the evolution of nervous systems.. The question is maybe rhetorical, and it may be not a question at all, but I am wonder, what you see in this direction.

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Re: Can we live without syntax?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2017, 08:09:07 am »
Stop wasting your time. There is no you, there is no world, no universe.... any part of a dream is still just more dream stuff. How long do you fret about a dream after you wake up? You can ''what if'' yourself to death... and you probably will... perfect, but just less than optimal.

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Re: Can we live without syntax?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2017, 03:03:07 am »
long... we have already waltzed a couple of times, or maybe three, if childhood is in account. And once too deeply even, to return. But in some strange way everything revived in where it exit from, and live, as if nothing had happened.. Therefore, we are passing by all those strange dances and looking forward to what happens next. Apparently, my silly and unwearying "self" had "preferred the madness of a sleep to sanctity of waking," and, i guess, it's not my choice at large, it's choise of someone Larger. May be, I'm not ready yet and must be here? How can I know? But look, does not it enchanting, "ability to sleep and dreaming what you dream about" in just a heart of Void... as blooming rose? "To be or not to be, that is the question"... in other words, as it's not banal.. And that is hurdle, as I can suppose.. is so? what you see?
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