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Jed McKenna

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Re: Ching
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2014, 10:23:34 am »
Dear Ching:

You said something important here...

If you can accept here, how  do you know  that. Do you just have a feeling, are you talking to yourself, do you make pictures of some even happening?

Mmm, maybe, I had not thought about this before. Now what you say is probably correct.

I ask that you look at this. There is a mechanism that tells you you can trust your mother. It's not just an idea in your head, it is much more interesting than that. Have a look at this and don't write back for a couple of days.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2014, 04:25:02 am »
Dear Ching:

There is really only one way to handle any fear, just do it. Go through it and you will see that it was nothing.

When you feel 'weak and sleep' just go do something completely different.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2014, 10:48:08 pm »
Thank you Ching;

You are quite clear, but what makes you think you are on earth? Could it be that earth is in you?

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Re: Ching
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2014, 03:44:57 am »
Whoa Ching:

You're talking about wasting time and all you are doing is pointing at others. I previously asked you to speak in the first person, about your self. How do you know what others need? How do you know my motivation and skill-set? Do you even know good from bad? I will make allowance for the fact you're not a native English speaker, but you know English quite well and know the difference between the first person and third person.

The forum is one on one, you and I. I don't need your assistance although I do learn from much of what comes my way. But, you need me... that obvious because otherwise you wouldn't be here.

Now, if you want to make some headway, start sharing 'you', not what think about others. That won't get you anywhere, just a ****-fest. We had a belly full of that on the last forum. No more.

You said 'But why can you waste so many resources to achieve your goal? ( learning, entertainment, expressing B.S. , wasting time?'. And, 'I know it isn’t my business and maybe it's just my illusion. But I consider this forum if full of "someone's" numerous articles.'. If it isn't your business what are you doing talking about it? Focus.

How can you possibly know what is wasting time or life-saving. Flat out... you don't. If you want to stick around here, STOP focusing on your complaints and look at yourself very closely. Then tell me a bit about what you find. Turn your vision around and find out what you are 'learning, entertaining, expressing b.s. about and wasting time about'. That way we might get somewhere. There is a huge difference between saying 'I feel a knot in my stomach' and 'I think he is an ****'. One opens doors and the other slams them shut.

I have too many courageous folks who are willing to spill their guts to someone they have never even met, i.e., me. If you can comply with the foregoing, I will do everything in my power to nudge you further. If you can't do that then I can't assist you and it's best you leave, or as you put it... 'expressing b.s.' somewhere else.

Keep in mind, that is absolutely nothing 'out there', everything you are seeing is you. There is only One, not two, ever. If you witness b.s. it's your b.s. and no body else's. It's not bad, just is. Being aware is the first step.

Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Ching
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2014, 12:26:14 pm »
Dear Ching:

I perceive that we are going to have a real challenge sharing in the forum format. I need a context within which we can communicate. Please Google Byron Katie and study her 'Work'. It will give us a shared language to utilize in our communication.

Please understand that this is specific to you as we don't share enough consensual reality for lack of a better word. There may be a real cultural difference that contributes to making it challenging.

Ms. Katie's Work is very practical and will assist in focusing your mind and allow us to communicate better. This is not a request, but a requirement if you wish to communicate here. Please don't come back until you have studied it for at least two weeks. I trust you understand my reasoning. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2014, 03:44:26 am »
Let's give this another try then.

First of all, Byron Katie says there are three kinds of business. What are they? This is  not a test, but an effort for us to  speak shared language. If you don't have the answer, I'll give it to you, but try.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2014, 10:13:56 pm »
Can you focus on the only thing you have any chance or controlling, improving, knowing and growing.... you?

This is important. If you can't focus on you then no progress towards adult hood will occur. You are not responsible for what other people do. It is a distraction and avoidance mechanism that keeps you from confronting the pain in your own life.

Can you understand what I am saying?

If not, let me know.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2014, 10:41:49 am »
Dear Ching:

You are never depressed, only the stories in your head are and they certainly aren't you. I recommend dying to the illusion of a 'you' prior to your mother's death, but it's up to you.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2014, 12:41:31 am »
Dear Ching:

You have some knowledge of the available methods. I would suggest you go for the one that scares you the most. Let know what you think you should pursue. H/A means thinking for yourself.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2014, 02:45:03 am »
Sounds just fine Ching. Feeling like a fake is the best indicator available that you are making progress. Everyone is a fake, and some folks on the path get to realize it. However, it is rare that anyone not working on this type of thing sees it. It's a blessing. Enjoy it.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2014, 12:14:56 am »
Hi Ching:

For a person who was supposed to be insane at one time (I'm not sure I believe that one), you are exhibiting a great deal of clarity and understanding. In fact, I would say it even has an adult flavor.

What you have observed is not much different that what most other people are experiencing. The trick lies in 'you'. When the 'you' makes something 'yours' as in a love relationship, then there will always be a start and and ending. The beginning is great, middle o.k. and ending, ouch! You buy a new car and it's 'yours'. That first scratch feels like a gouge in your chest that needs stitches. You don't care about your friend's car, but 'your' car is close to you. Your girlfriend smiles at another guy and a part of you goes 'ouch'. She's yours, not his. As long as there is a 'you' this will occur. You can't beat it, but if there is no you, then who would be claiming ownership. Love, relate, scratch car, **** happens and who cares? Being without cares doesn't mean being 'careless', it's actually the opposite. When you don't care you are  free to care for other's well being without attachment.

Have you seen the Youtubes of Benjamin Smythe? He is very good on this subject and presents in a slightly insane but very entertaining way. Delightful insights. Have a look.

Indeed, there is nothing wrong with not having relationships if that suits you. Keep in mind that many conventional aspects of society are, IMO, quite insane and quick to point the finger at you and label you with their affliction.

Good work and understandings Ching. Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2014, 06:57:18 am »
Right now you are sounding clearer and more stable to me. Keep up the good work.

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. With forgiveness, just pretend it's working and you'd be surprised at how effective it can be. It's not the solution for everything but it helps.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2014, 06:39:42 am »
I wish you the very best on your journey Ching.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2014, 06:15:47 am »
How do you know what's exhausting for me? I don't understand.

Please find the 'Hong' reference. I can't recall it.

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Re: Ching
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2014, 02:43:34 am »
Don't worry about Hong.

I want you to think of a person you know and spend anywhere from five minute to a half hour writing out everything that they could be thinking. If you run out of ideas, which you will probably do quite quickly, start making things up, the more you make up the better. Remember, not what you are thinking, but what you are thinking that they are thinking. It can get as crazy as you want. You are not writing to impress anyone, you are just getting it down on paper.

I want you to post the list on your thread. All of it. And I don't want you to try to figure out what I am doing or why I am requesting it. That's not your concern. Just do it.

Don't wast your time thinking I am angry with you, I am not capable of that.

I look forward to hearing from you and please keep in mind that  I am not your 'friend' in the conventional sense, I am your teacher. Hence, you may feel love or hate for me, I don't care because that is not my job. I want to move you further and petty things have no room here, and that applies to petty people. It takes a big person, to both teach and be a student.

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. No diversion, do exactly as instructed. If instructions are not clear that is my fault, please let me know.