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Jed McKenna

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Clarification of Forum Rules of the Online Ashram.
« on: November 01, 2014, 01:52:43 am »
Dear Members:

I let the last forum run for a number of years and only chucked a couple of shills off it during that time. They were incredibly disruptive and members were pleased to see them go. To say they were a distraction and a waste of time is an understatement. However, it was an experiment and I told members that. It led me to create this forum. I learned a good deal and can now smell the shills a long way off. I have already removed one member from here because of it.

The purpose of opening up the Rant threads is to offer a place to share your experiences, and for that matter also your arguments etc. WITH ME, but only as it relates to that specific topic. If you don't think Buddha existed, or don't like what I say, feel free to express it BUT, only in the context that you and I are the ones talking. I don't mind that at all as along as it relates to the thread and your experiences.

Forums are like gardens. They require continuous weeding or they, sometimes at an alarming speed, degenerate into 'he said, she said' child's play. You can find this strange mechanism just about anywhere that a forum opens up and it's unmoderated. Of course, the more contested the subject the quicker the degrading. 

We are playing a game here. Even though some of you may not think so. All games have three things, boundaries, rules and a goal. The boundaries are the context, i.e., the forum. The goal is T/R or whatever you wish to call it, but please stick with T/R for consistency. Then there are the rules:

1.) No posting of more that 250 words, less is always better. It makes you think hard about what you are saying. I prefer that.
2.) No comments about other's posts. You are not posting your experiences to get attention, acceptance or a declaration of 'done', etc. You and I are in a conversation. I am only interested in your experiences, preferably in the more or less present as that's where the greatest value is to be found.
3.) No cross-talk. Such things as telling another members that you had a similar experience, that they should write or post a certain way, or that they need to do 'X'. Mind your own store, no one else's.
4.) No extraneous content, links, photos, etc. Smileys only if you wish. ;D
5.) NEW RULE... one that I can't enforce, but I ask that you be in a sober state when writing here. Other than perhaps, a caffeine buzz, please don't write stoned... you know who I mean...

Some of you would like a more open thread so that you can communicate with each other. There are hundreds of thousands of venues available for all the babble you wish to engage in. The internet age has opened up some amazing doors, but for all it's opportunities I don't know that communication quality has gone up. My take is that it has gone down. More mindless babble-crap doesn't mean high quality communications are taking place. In fact, it feeds Maya very well... plays right into here hands. It takes people away from where they are and who/what is in front of them right now.

So the tone of this forum is it's being run by me, you might see me as a benevolent dictator.. yeh, I like one... and the sole purpose is a conversation between you and I. You are not here for attention or approval, even mine, you and I are here in order to hold hands while you jump from the burning building.

The discipline I espouse is counter to what some of you might want, but T/R is highly unlikely to show up in your world if you don't exhibit some discipline.

If you don't understand any rule, please ask me about it. If you don't think you can follow them, then either suck it up and make yourself follow them or perhaps leave. 

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. Members are doing a truly wonderful job of sticking to the program and I do appreciate it.






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Joel

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Re: Clarification of Forum Rules of the Online Ashram.
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2014, 06:09:34 am »
Got it!

Gwen

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Re: Clarification of Forum Rules of the Online Ashram.
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 07:12:33 am »
Dear Jed,
Sorry, won't happen again!
Love
Gwen

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Re: Clarification of Forum Rules of the Online Ashram.
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 06:08:08 pm »
Hai Jed,

I aks myself why you don't put the forumrule stuff onder de notice part on this forum. I think that may be more efficient than constant repeating them on the general forum where in time they dissapear in between all the other topics

You have to know for your self, i know what would do  ;)

Greetings Sparrow.

Jed McKenna

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Re: Clarification of Forum Rules of the Online Ashram.
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2014, 11:19:39 am »
Kate and Gromer:

Cut the crap you two or you're outa here. This is just the beginning of what can become an absolute waste of time. I am going to jealously guard this forum and continually bring the focus back to what's going on in your world. That doesn't include telling other what's going on for them or good for them.

Love ya both, Jed.

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Re: Clarification of Forum Rules of the Online Ashram.
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2014, 05:31:38 pm »
Thanks, Jed. I appreciate the boundaries- god knows I need them.  ;D

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Re: Clarification of Forum Rules of the Online Ashram.
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2014, 06:21:57 pm »
Is it cross talk if a member other than Jed gives an answer to another members query? It seems like a variety of answers might be useful depending on where the questioner or future reader are at in their journey. The combination of Jed's AND Mork's answers was really helpful for me on a question regarding scientific 'truths' since they came at it from different angles.

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Some clarification may assist.

NotDan asked: Is it cross talk if a member other than Jed gives an answer to another members query?

Yes, it definitely is. Member's posts are not for conversation, suggestions, ideas, etc. to be exchanged with other members. They are only a conversation between myself and you, the forum member, i.e., a very specific communication channel.

also: It seems like a variety of answers might be useful depending on where the questioner or future reader are at in their journey.

It may be so, but this is not your concern. It is not your job to ascertain where someone is or what may or may not be of value.

If you feel any need to communicate with another member, look to the reason you feel it. Now, there you may find something of value. Are you seeking approval, connection, love, survival of an idea, or any other thing? Is there a little tension that needs releasing through communication? GREAT! I assure you there is something behind your need to communicate and that can hold a delightful nugget. BUT don't communicate it, find out what's going on in you. Don't ever think that you know where another person is at, you have very little knowledge of where you are at.

Now, when I rant, things open up a little. If a member says something and you get value from it, a simple 'thank you' is all that is called for, or perhaps a 'yeh, I know what you mean'. It is imperative that you never make suggestions to another member. 

If you are feeling that this is too restrictive there are many channels for communication outside of this forum... use them if you wish.

You are the pressure cooker and I am the stove. Any time that you can't take the heat, you can leave the kitchen, but, and this is very important, the moment you are about to leave is the moment that you are ripest for a life changing experience.

So, a step towards H/A, discipline yourself and you are much more likely to gain something of value.

For anyone who just might think I am cultivating disciples or adherents, you are right, but... I only offer part time positions then your ass is outa here. It's not the coming of members that delights me, it's the leaving.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Clarification of Forum Rules of the Online Ashram.
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2014, 12:13:01 am »
Cool! Can't be any clearer than that! Thanks.