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Jed McKenna

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Re: confused
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2018, 05:04:49 am »
What makes you think they are you? What makes a ''you'' think that anything is ''you''? Another ''you''...??? Sounds screwy to me.

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Re: confused
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2018, 09:23:30 pm »
I'm not really sure what makes things "me" or "mine". Sometimes the story of "myself" becomes too real and I can't see further than that. So things, emotions, thoughts, writing, and experiences just come and it just is without anybody's ownership and I shouldn't put much thought into it? Does this go back to releasing the tiller Jed?

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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2018, 11:14:29 pm »
Sounds like that to me.

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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2018, 03:35:19 pm »
The input that the "I" gets leads me to confuse the body for the "I" when in actuality I don't know what the "I' could be. The "I" could be observing the "I" I currently said or something along those lines to a infinite number of ways. What I see isn't the I, neither is what I feel or think or hear. It's all just chaotic information blinding me at all times really. I just don't see how it all fits together, I still see things separately when you said that there should be one.

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Re: confused
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2018, 08:28:58 pm »
Jed, have I taken the first step?

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Re: confused
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2018, 01:09:59 am »
Definitely... now don't stop.

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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2018, 10:09:04 pm »
So truth is true at all times no matter when or where. So the truth of everybody and everything is infinite and always will be. What I don't get is how that truth is the same in all things, to see the sameness where there's duality. But the truth isn't anything at all that i could express because all I can say about it is what it's not. So if it isn't anything, and that's my truth as well as your truth, does that make it the same truth? And thus the non-dual awareness comes from?

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Re: confused
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2018, 01:38:35 am »
You are a little mixed up. How can there be a your Truth and a my Truth? Who is the you and me you speak of. N/D is a symptom, not an end to the journey.

How could there be more than one Truth? Truth is what this illusion arises within.

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P.S. You can't ''stop'' dreaming, just realize it's ALL a dream. That is sufficient.


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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2018, 10:29:23 pm »
All I know is that I've surrendered, and unwillingly at that. Circumstances forced me to and I'm all the better for it. Not sure if that that means I'm waking up from or within the dream state, but it is something significant. I'm still talking to you so that means there's some discontent in me to clarify something, but I don't know what. I've reread your books and feel like I am living a bit of what you speak of, but not all of it. I don't really see patterns I think, or think of myself as God, or see everything as unified. I guess what I do see what I thought of me as bullshit now (such as my thoughts and feelings), less labeling of other people (usually projections), and having more trust in the universe. I guess I wrote all this to say that I'm not sure Truth exists. I know that this body isn't me, this Earth isn't me, a lot of others isn't me, but as for Truth, what is it? What lasts infinitely? I don't know. Before all this I was chasing a state where I would do good with girls, I wrote my ass off, finding new clarifications and insights like a maniac, like your Spiritual Autolysis. Now, i think in my head a lot.

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Re: confused
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2018, 10:31:17 pm »
I guess I just wanted to say that I'm a little lost and I guess that's the way it's supposed to be, for now at least. I have no more comforts by hiding behind the ego and "being" something. I do wish I had a question for you, I know you like questions.

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Re: confused
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2018, 11:39:05 pm »
You are only really lost when you think you are not lost. Embrace lost.

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Re: confused
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2018, 08:26:22 am »
How do we know that Truth exists? Do we just know it because there has to be a stage in which all this is occurring?  Is it something we can know exists? Or are there just turtles like who is the "we" that asks and so on?
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Re: confused
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2018, 10:28:30 am »
Yes, there is an ultimate stage... now FIND IT!

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Re: confused
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2018, 12:22:15 am »
All I have so far is that consciousness is the stage in which the illusion appears. And I am a part of and at the same time am that consciousness.

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Re: confused
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2018, 11:32:23 am »
Go deeper, or further...

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