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Die before you die
« on: March 05, 2018, 01:49:43 am »
Don’t all big spiritual systems actually describe the same thing you are talking about? You call it seeking for truth, others call it seeking if God exists... just different words... but the same hard death. Right? You are not talking a lot on what you find...very buddhist in fact...but stress the journey... but wouldn’t everyone find the same truth after the death of the ego? There is only one....

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Re: Die before you die
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2018, 10:46:25 pm »
Dear Jump:

All realization of one's true nature is, in it's purest form identical, however, upon return to the body and humanness it is expressed through one's own language/words, one's cultural filters and one's human 'life' experiences. T/R is unimaginable and indescribable so it will inevitably be described with some similarities and considerably differences. Just the way it is.

All descriptions, including mine, are just stories and all that really matters is that you go and find our for yourself and your Self. Stories are only useful in that they point, but they also trap the search into the illusion that he/she can imagine what T/R is like. Such imagining is often flowered ups with bells, baubles and b.s. and that is all that is needed to block the true view/experience/whatever you wish to call it. I.E. find out on your own what's true for you... and then let all that go because it will inevitably be from your mind, and see what is left. Simple but not easy. It takes real nerve to jump and not just talk about it.

Best wishes on your journey.

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2018, 05:08:26 am »
Dear Jed,
Thanks for the fast reply. Totally agree with you! Coming out of Christianity, I „jumped“ 4 years ago. Figured it out from the Bible. I love your texts and books because you find a modern language to communicate this knowledge. Also love your descriptions of „life after death“. Be well.

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2018, 12:02:12 am »
Hi Jump:

I came to the conclusion that life before death is well worth a little effort and house cleaning. Most people, in their lives of quiet misery and desperation, have no idea what life is about. I found that it's (IMHO) all about entertainment. A bit like a circus or entertainment park... and at the same time multidimensional V/R. It's a dream gift and any dream character who turns their nose up at the gift is... just missing the point.

There are parts of the dream that appear good, some bad, and some in between.... that's just the nature of the dream. And when you realize that the True You was never born, then you realize that it can't possibly die. You only check out of the dream of humanness and into more and more adventures.

Is that true? No! Words are only symbols and never actually true or real. Is it representative of my experience? Absolutely yes! Is such realization(s) worth the effort? In my experience it's are the only thing in the dream of humanness worthy of throwing your ''self'' into with all the gusto you can muster. I think I'll get a t-shirt printed... ''Find out for your self''.

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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2018, 02:18:24 am »
Hi Jed, also totally agree with you on this one. Everything is just loving playfulness and soo alive.. Nothing serious,no fear, no body, no death. Rather entertaining and intense. Just like Jesus said: “Come and see“. I sure would wear that shirt too! And I wonder why people can possibly choose to remain in the dreamstate, it is such a little step. Just muster the courage and jump. From one state to the other..  Hilarious! Is that true? No of course not! Only if I choose to...
Jump and enjoy!

Big hug and lots of love,
Jump

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2018, 04:46:41 am »
Back at ya....  :-* :-* :-*

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2018, 04:39:14 am »
Hi Jed,
Going through death, I broke free of everything. Also all personal attachments to people. I find it very difficult (bothersome) to have to go back and keep living in the old confines. It would be honest to get rid of them. Live independently. But there is a bunch of people in the dream state around me, who would “hurt” if I lived the truth... Is that what they mean by Karma..?

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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2018, 07:19:37 am »
Their pain lies only in the fact that their stories are not proving to be fulfilled.... and their stories are clearly not your problem. Do you really think that living the ''truth'' as you put it will cause pain? How much pain is caused by living a ''lie''?

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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2018, 09:11:17 am »
So in the end it boils down to simply doing what’s „in character“ and then letting things develop? And leave the others to figure it out themselves?

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2018, 10:20:00 am »
That would seem logical, but sometimes you ''character'' just seems to generate misery.. is that true for you?

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2018, 10:44:06 am »
No, not really. I am doing ok. Nothing dramatic. Just not exactly me. I just can‘t figure out, how much decisionmaking I would do and how much would I leave to the universe...

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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2018, 12:49:21 pm »
Maybe I understated: the problem is, I am stagnating...

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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2018, 06:03:41 am »
Well.... if you don't like it, then stop doing it. Can it be that difficult.

It's just a decision.... pretend to make it and then pretend to follow through on it.

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2018, 11:39:00 am »
Pretend?

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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2018, 02:36:14 am »
What is not pretend?

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