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6 ft 7 Police Officer

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Do others exist?
« on: August 06, 2018, 08:48:43 am »
Hello Jed,

I would like to have your opinion on whether others exist.

If this is a dream now, it means that all "dream people" (me included) and dream animals have no consciousness of their own.

It also means that there are no different perceptors who perceive the world. It means that there is only one who perceives these lines here. And this one is not a person. It is the dream or consciousness, aware of itself.

I practically write myself now.

That is why it is completely meaningless whether anyone from this forum gets enlightened or not. Who cares if a dream figure claims to be enlightened?

At any rate, it does not interest the dream, consciousness, itself.

It is even a contradiction in terms that a dream figure could be enlightened.


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Jed McKenna

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Re: Do others exist?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2018, 09:04:45 am »
Boil it down, what are you saying/asking?

Much of what you say is my reality, but I want something real that I can sink my teeth into. Do you have that something?

 ??? ??? ??? ::) :P

Love ya, Jed.
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6 ft 7 Police Officer

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2018, 09:43:50 am »
Sorry, Jed. I am lost in translation.  ??? I seem not to be able to translate oder understand your question. Can you perhaps rephrase it? Sorry for my bad english.  :'( What do you mean with your question "Do you have that something (real)?"

My question is, if "you" can confirm that what I have wrote is true for yourself or if you have another opinion to this topic "others".

Thanks



 
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Jed McKenna

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2018, 09:52:13 am »
O.K. In typical guru b.s. fashion I will answer your question with a question. Do you exist? This is not a joke and is probably the deepest question one can ask. DO YOU EXIST?

Once you answer, we can take it further.

Oh, by the way, how do you know if you exist or don't exist?

Love ya, Jed.
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6 ft 7 Police Officer

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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2018, 10:04:49 am »
Thanks for the time you invest, Jed.  :)


You asked: Do you exist?

Answer: Of course. 

You asked: How do you know that you exist?

Answer: Because I am here. I am conscious for the lines on the computerscreen which arise now. That I exist is what I know most securely. I know that I am.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2018, 09:30:25 pm »
.... and I know the opposite, most securely.

Love ya, Jed.
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6 ft 7 Police Officer

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2018, 04:29:21 pm »
Please explain and concretize your answer, if possible.

I did not say that I exist as a person. I exist as consciousness.

The opposite of what? Respectively what are you most secure of??


Thank you!

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2018, 11:19:01 pm »
I know that ''I'' don't exist. It is quite impossible that I exist. All that exists is Truth, nothing else ''is'' in any way. Where was all this, the world, you, I, the houses, the stubbed toe, the clouds, where was all this before you where conceived. Keep looking.

Stick with it, you are inquiring about the right things, IMHO.

Love ya, Jed.
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2018, 04:43:29 am »
Thanks for your answer, Jed.

You said: "I know that ''I'' don't exist".

This statement is a contradiction in terms imho.  ???

If you know that you do not exist, what is it that has that knowledge???

This something, that knows, that it does not exist, is you. So you obviously exist. :-)

"I know that I do not exist" is a thought, you are aware of. And with this "you" I do not mean you as a person. So you obviously exist, if you are aware of this thought.

Can you please give me an example, when you are not conciouss?

Thanks!
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2018, 04:48:54 am »
You also wrote "Where was all this, the world, you, I, the houses, the stubbed toe, the clouds, where was all this before you where conceived. Keep looking."

Looking in this direction leads to nowhere fo me. If time does not exist, why should I look at a nonexistent past? What is thruth, must be truth now.

You said that you donīt exist, but truth exists. What is that truth then? Is you and thruth different?

Thanks for your effort, Jed!
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2018, 03:51:05 am »
Truth is what is drawing you do find your true nature. Just relax and let everything be as it appears to be. Why are you even bothering with this silliness. You are smarter than that. You know what you need to know to lead a happy life. Go and be grateful, just enjoy yourself.

Love ya, Jed.
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