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Micki

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Has T/R anything to do with love?
« on: August 11, 2018, 04:04:15 am »
Dear jed,
at the Moment i`m expiriencing three different Kind of states. (With sleeping deeply and dreaming ((at night)) five states). During Meditation, Yoga and Qi Gong practise a state of being right now, feeling energy and observing everything that is without judging. This state feels quite good. Another state is during everyday life, where i try to cultivate this observing attitude. Everything becomes empty and meaningless and i feel distanciated from life and life feels without life like a movie. And the third state when i`m completely identifyed with life and it`s arisings. I feel love and happyness but also sadness, anger and frustration.
Is there any possibility to keep love and happyness without the Frustration? For me itīs easyer to observe the negative feelings, than the positive feelings because the positive feelings especial the love for my girlfriend feel so good, that i get automatically attached to it, that when i donīt get what i want i become frustrated.

Thank you for your answear

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Jed McKenna

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Re: Has T/R anything to do with love?
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2018, 01:40:49 pm »
Hi Micki:

O.K. I think I got it... what you are asking. You want to know if you can have only positive feelings and not negative ones, is that it. Good luck on that one. While you think you are a human it's impossible. Think you where born and will die, then it's more impossible, think that you can have love while dreaming.. it's very, very impossible.

In Truth, you are love itself... but you have to find that out for yourself. Then, you will see the silliness in your questions... but it never hurts to ask.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Has T/R anything to do with love?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2018, 01:54:30 pm »
Thank you for your response. I believe that in truth i am love itself, but it's only a believe, so how can I find out for myself?
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Micki

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Re: Has T/R anything to do with love?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2018, 02:23:13 pm »
Anyway, i read your books and i agree that there's nothing but conciousness. My problem is, that the emotions arising in conciousnes do not correspond to the arising thoughts about it. I still feel like an separated "I" although i cannot find anything that's not part of "my" conciousness. So i'm not awake but also can't continue my life as if i wouldn't be sure about that it's a lie. Or possibly i can continue but it feels false.

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2018, 05:11:26 am »
I'm referring to your rant "how to deal with guilt" but i wasn't sure if i should post it there or here.
I had a separation and divorce from my wife in 2011 and i think we handeld it very gently although it hurted me a lot. So here's my question: "how does it come, that although i'm absolutely convinced about that fact, that there's nothing but conciousness and no thoughts are true, some painful emotions seem to have more reality than the storys to whom they are attached? That means even if i stop believing in a certain story the attached emotion stays longer and does not dissolve at the same time in that the belief has changed. And even if there is no belief in "my person" pain seem to cause the thought that "i" am hurt and seems to give stability to a imaginative person. And then it takes a lot of discipline and awareness not to act like this person.

Writing this there's another question arising: "If i really not believe to be a person, who should care about to act or not act like one? And who can have discipine or awareness?" And with these thoughts there's a feeling of meaninglessness and emptyness comming up...who cares about anything or should care about anything???

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2018, 05:31:27 am »
This last post, leads me to another thought. Pain often causes change. I feel as separated and not right, i have to get somewhere, become enlightened etc. then the thought that anyway there's no thing such as an i or a free will leads to a relief and relaxation but with this relaxation again after a while starts a feeling of stagnation and then again some sorts of thoughts and circumstaces lead to pain again...
I feel pretty confused...not knowing anything...or anything that i believe to know dissolves in the same moment to nothing...somehow funny and interesting...weird.
I have to do something immediately - i can't do anything at all anyway. Even being aware and observing is not up to me. I only can be as aware as i can be and does not everybody try to be as conscious and aware as possible in every moment?

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Re: Has T/R anything to do with love?
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2018, 05:36:09 am »
Find out for yourself who cares about anything... just allow you confusion to be what it is... just part of the dream of humanness.

Love ya, Jed.