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Jed McKenna

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Re: Contemplating the sense of "I am"
« Reply #150 on: May 16, 2017, 05:33:22 am »
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Re: Contemplating the sense of "I am"
« Reply #151 on: June 08, 2017, 11:25:00 am »
Hi Jed, I am back.

I like the read the post of others and what you say to them, it helps me a lot. Thanks for that.


I really don't fell I got anything to ask, because everything it is said or thought is not the real thing. Maybe it can help, but right now I am just trying to leave logic to one side.
The mind is always trying to look for explanations, making logic from disconnected stuff... it doesn't know anything.

I am meditating, reading a book that it is said Ramana recommended reading "The Lamp of Non Dual Knowledge, and it's really good.
I also have the bhagavad gita to read after that.


I am not looking for logic anymore, I am just waiting without any expectation, but my ego is like excited thinking "I want to become enlightened"... stupid ego, he can't get enlightened. Because there's no "I" to be enlightened.

And enlightenment is not something he can get. But, I let it have fun while I observe how he plays.

Thanks again Jed!

Now I want to go further!!!!
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Re: Contemplating the sense of "I am"
« Reply #152 on: June 09, 2017, 03:19:51 am »
Pretend you are in a butterfly farm. You want the butterflies to land on you, what do you do?

Tell me.... in 50 words or less.

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Re: Contemplating the sense of "I am"
« Reply #153 on: June 09, 2017, 07:31:11 am »
Just stay in the middle of the farm (or where there are more butterflies) and stay completely quiet.
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Re: Contemplating the sense of "I am"
« Reply #154 on: June 10, 2017, 12:55:19 am »
So, stay in the middle of this apparent world and remain completely still.... mentally that is.

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Re: Contemplating the sense of "I am"
« Reply #155 on: June 10, 2017, 07:39:44 am »
Thanks Jed, I will work on that.
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Re: Contemplating the sense of "I am"
« Reply #156 on: June 10, 2017, 08:35:20 am »
Let me know how it goes.

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Re: Contemplating the sense of "I am"
« Reply #157 on: June 10, 2017, 09:03:07 am »
I will Jed, thanks again.
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Re: Contemplating the sense of "I am"
« Reply #158 on: December 16, 2017, 12:07:12 pm »
Let me know how it goes.

Love ya, Jed.

Ok Jed, I was trying to stay totally quiet in the middle of the farm and it's crazy difficult. But I am still trying. The first time I could not do it. My mind was wandering, I got anxious of being so quiet. I feel like I went backwards, because some time ago I used to do zazen two hours straight, and now I couldn't be sitting 15 minutes. Not good... I need to work on that.

I remember once when I told you that I could see that we are not the doers. I felt that I was walking without walking, etc...
So I told you that "I" saw "that".

And you asked me "what did you see? the void?" (or something like that).
And I really didn't see a void, or the world falling down into pieces as you  say in your book.


I realized that all those experiences happen in awareness, and if "I" am looking for an experience to know that  there's enlightenment, that's  a trap.
I know that I am enlightened but without any experience, because enlightenment doesn't happen to "me".


I am not looking for any experience at the moment, but I will continue meditating. I just wanted to share it with you because I like the way you "teach" what is not "teachable"...

And like UG krishnamurti said, I know I am just a dog barking.
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Thanks Jed for your patiente reading all our "stories".








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Re: I am That
« Reply #159 on: December 17, 2017, 12:18:00 am »
Thank you for sharing. I read you every word.

Best wishes on your journey.

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Re: I am That
« Reply #160 on: December 18, 2017, 02:46:10 pm »
Thanks again!

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Re: I am That
« Reply #161 on: December 19, 2017, 12:31:36 am »
Smiles all around... :o :o :o

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Re: I am That
« Reply #162 on: February 10, 2018, 11:23:58 am »
Jed...

I still have questions.

I realized that there's not a me who looks for enlightenment, I tried to stop wishing enlightenment to become enlightened. But I am still wishing not to wish Lol...

Buddha explained that very clearly when he said desires are the root of all the human "problem". So, if "I" stop having desires "I" will find my true self.
But how do you stop desiring not to desire?


I am back to meditating, I really am in a point where I don't know anything. I just do whatever I feel it's correct.


I think what you suggested about stopping all thoughts can help "me".

I am also practicing concentration on my breath, focusing only in my breath with no thoughts and sometimes with zazen.

I consider zazen being sitting in meditation, doing nothing just being aware and seeing what arises without reaction of my part.


Thanks!

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Re: I am That
« Reply #163 on: February 13, 2018, 04:41:37 am »
Excellent question: But how do you stop desiring not to desire?

Simple answer: You are pretending everything else, why not pretend to stop desiring without desiring to stop. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

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Re: I am That
« Reply #164 on: February 13, 2018, 03:37:47 pm »
Excellent question: But how do you stop desiring not to desire?

Simple answer: You are pretending everything else, why not pretend to stop desiring without desiring to stop. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

Love ya, Jed.

Nice... hehehehe.... I will continue doing the work.

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