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Jed McKenna

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Re: I am That
« Reply #165 on: February 15, 2018, 04:43:15 am »
Excellent.....

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Re: I am That
« Reply #166 on: April 09, 2018, 09:31:11 pm »
Awareness IS

and thoughts appear and create reality... it's all ideas.

I think I was born, but there's not real experience of that. It's a thought.

Working on self inquiry.

I need to go deeper making my mind still. And not trying to get or gain anything at all...

I have to lose my life, lose everything, lose the world created by the stories in my head.
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Re: I am That
« Reply #167 on: April 11, 2018, 02:17:42 am »
Excellent...now go do it.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: I am That
« Reply #168 on: April 11, 2018, 04:56:05 am »

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Re: I am That
« Reply #169 on: June 29, 2018, 05:45:34 pm »
Why do we want to be accepted by others, loved, cared, etc. If there's really not "others"?

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Re: I am That
« Reply #170 on: June 29, 2018, 07:33:54 pm »
Ok. I think I know now. I was reading your Rants Jed, and that's Maya.

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Re: I am That
« Reply #171 on: June 29, 2018, 07:39:56 pm »
Ok, I have my question now. We are supposed to be the observers, just being aware can make T/R arise. The "Iamness" never disappears. It has become not focused on this body, this mind, this little idea of a self. Right?

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Re: I am That
« Reply #172 on: June 30, 2018, 05:42:15 am »
Nis explained the I am quite lucidly, but you really have to know how to interpret what he is saying.

His approach, which is quite effective IMHO,  is to continuously contemplate the I am, that sense that you are. NOW, listen closely because here is the trick. That one thing that everybody thinks is the end-all and be-all, the only thing you can know... is that you are, or, I am. It is obviously foundational.. and all a lie. You aren't.  ::) ::) ::) To think you are was a necessary rule of the human dream game.  :P :P :P YOU are not anything at all.

Now, go back and track your sense of I am to its beginning and prove me wrong.... I double-dog-dare ya.

Cheers and happy hunting.
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Re: I am That
« Reply #173 on: July 01, 2018, 09:10:00 am »
I can not prove you're wrong, Lol ...

Ok, this is something I was contemplating. (It's even fun to say that because there is no "I" to contemplate). But, to continue with the "game", some time ago I was in a facebook group (they threw me out of it) where the administrator always said that I am awareness, and that that was fundamental or basic, the only thing I know.

But they did not dare to go further. They said that there always had to be an experience, there had to be a me that was aware of that, otherwise how will I know?.
Saying anything beyond that was religious hogwash, it was a belief, bla bla bla...

Then I told them that they were doing awareness dependant on experience.
If there was no experience there was no awareness ... that was ridiculous. So they told me that everything was really concepts. In reality experience and awareness were concepts and that everything was one. I told them that with that criterion, a tree is awareness, a chair is also awareness ... (which is true too) hehehe ... so they got angry when I said that, because I was not seeing "their point". Everything is the same, so we are experience. Lol...

Sorry for the long story, but I wanted to explain how I was arriving to the conclusion that you just said, that we are really nothing, and now you are confirming that I was not so crazy.

In deep sleep, I know I AM but because there's no experience of anything, no time, no nothing, there's nothing for the "I" to remember, there's just a knowing... that nothing is there.

It can not be explained in words, because it transcends concepts and "nothing" is also a concept. So, thanks JED, it's like I take a weight off my shoulders.

We are nothing, cool ... that's a paradox, right?

Thanks Jed.

P.S.: Sorry again if I did a long post.

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Re: I am That
« Reply #174 on: July 01, 2018, 10:57:56 am »
Excellent work, no avoid all that F/B crap.

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Re: I am That
« Reply #175 on: July 01, 2018, 11:29:04 am »
Excellent work, no avoid all that F/B crap.

Love ya, Jed.
Thanks Jed. I will avoid FB as if it is the devil. Lol.

Another thing that you helped me to notice is when you said that Nis said that we have to abide in the I AM. And then we will know that even that is false.

 Now finally I understand more deeply what Jesus meant when he said "I am the way".

The I AM takes you there, but that's only the way to reach the absolute which is beyond everything.


Love you too,

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Re: I am That
« Reply #176 on: July 02, 2018, 12:34:02 am »
Excellent...

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Re: I am That
« Reply #177 on: July 02, 2018, 11:14:53 am »
Omg...

the truth it is so deep hiding in Jesus messages.

He said... "and you will know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" John 8:32


He said you will know... he didn't say "you will believe in the truth"

It is a knowing that make us "see" the truth... contrary to what the Church says that you have to "believe"...



Layers and layers of what we are not have to be teared down to finally know the truth.
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Re: I am That
« Reply #178 on: July 03, 2018, 02:05:44 am »
Belief, faith, all that good stuff ... is only an affirmation that you don't KNOW. Someone that knows doesn't require belief or faith or even hope. They just know. Anyone seeking to reinforce their beliefs by bringing in new believers is like a blind man trying to guide another blind man across a busy freeway. Sometimes reality bites.

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Re: I am That
« Reply #179 on: July 03, 2018, 05:16:16 am »
True Jed.

The I AM is the way. Until you lose your life, so you can have true life.
:-)

But, there's not a person in that new life.


Thanks Jed!!!

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