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Catfish

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Hi, Sally here...
« on: November 13, 2014, 04:19:15 am »
Cool....  moving smiley faces!  ::) :o :-* :'(

Hi Jedbot,

So, how do/will I know if I'm a HA a new born or TR? Will you be able to tell me..? Should I care?

Love as always xxx
PS: the other forum sucks now... lol
PS: No sex (or chocolate!) - really?

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Re: Hi, Sally here...
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2014, 06:07:30 am »
Hi Sall:

If you gotta ask, you ain't there.

but, nice to hear from you.

Love ya, Jed. ::)

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Re: Hi, Sally here...
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2014, 08:19:54 pm »
Thanks Jedbot.

I didn't gotta ask, but couldn't think of much else to say. I though it was as good a question as any other. Let's try another one then..... Naah, on second thoughts i'd just be making up a question for the hell of it. I'll read some of your posts in this forum and then I may be able to ask something i want to know the answer to. Glad it's going so good....

With love Sall xxx

PS: Not getting any (well 'much') sex, I have the occasional choccy bar, and what was the other 'no no'? Alcohol? Man this waking-up caper isn't much fun! lol!

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Re: Hi, Sally here...
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2014, 10:02:31 pm »
Hi Sal:

I seem to bet getting my fair share of just about everything. When I think of it, nothing I need more of or less of.

Wasn't it Little Red Riding Hood that said, her porridge was 'Juussst right?'. Not sure.

Love ya and good to hear you are still active, even it not quite enough.

Love ya, Jed. :o

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Re: Hi, Sally here...
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 10:40:49 pm »
Ok a question! yay.

You mention that if u r a dickhead before enlightenment you'll be a dickhead afterwards. You also promote HA (which I assume is the antithesis of dickheadness) as a stop on the road to T/R. And/or something to be achieved in it's own right.

So my question is..... if a DH before and after, then why HA? Is it easier to become T/R via HA? Or do u just like hanging with HA's? And this is not about u - it's a question about me... i.e. how hard and why should I strive for HA

Mwah
Sall xxx

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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2014, 11:11:03 pm »
Dearest Sal:

My two bits worth... or two shillings worth, or whatever the coin of the realm is where you are.

Very seldom T/R just drops in on someone, they skip the H/A thing all together. It can really be a f-up if they aren't prepared. Lives get shattered and it can take tens of years to put back to some semblance of sanity. However, it's extremely  rare.

H/A is about being functional in this little world and thus prepared for T/R if it comes along. T/R has been called a divine accident and H/A makes you more accident prone.

Many people will say the world is perfect as it is, and I agree, but on this plane we have something called the 'next moment' and I maintain that could be just a sliver better than the 'previous moment'. Growing, learning and experiencing are all part of what is going on here.

Another silly story if you will permit me... you are a 10 year old and want a Ph.D. in nuclear physics. If, through some strange mechanism, all that info was just dumped into your head, your circuits would simply fry, not have a friggin clue what to do. Overloaded. Breakers thrown.

So, this is the danger, not the right word but WTF, of not being an adult when the blue bird of T/R craps on your birthday cake. You simple aren't prepared. H/A is not that complex really, just a good deal of releasing, forgiving people and past plus slowing down some of your spontaneous ego based idiotic behaviors. (not you Sal, only applies to others) Gentle understanding is called for and you will be more prone to that divine accident happening.

I have said that realization is a gentle breeze and the only discomfort or upset is what we cling to. The breeze is always there and the pain is the clinging.

What Do you cling to most, right now, in this moment as you read this? Stop, take a breath and go inside. Absolutely no blame or putting you down. It takes guts and I admire anyone who can sincerely do it. I know you are clinging to something that's pretty big because we have communicated for years on the last forum. You don't have to say what it is, your choice in that, I want for you to be aware of it only. No beating yourself up, and no denying and definitely not trying to change it. That very busy mind of yours will just sidetrack you, so you have my permission to tell it to 'SHUT THE F UP'.

If full blown T/R smacks you upside the face, so be it. Much of what I am doing here is trying to prep that ten year old for a Ph.D. down load, well, 'unload' would be a better word.

Let me suggest something, if you haven't already done it. Google Ramana Maharshi and get a picture of him. Nah, better idea, I break my rules: https://www.google.com.vn/search?q=picture+of+ramana+maharshi&biw=1366&bih=651&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ld1mVNGENqa5mAXxz4GwAg&ved=0CBoQsAQ

Look into his eyes and you will get a sense of what I am pointing at. Daily matters were of no import to him. People had to pretty much hand feed and take care of him to keep him in this plane. He is the only person that I would like to have met in the flesh.

I'm beginning to wander here. H/A is just my way of saying get a little sane in preparation for ... and now I run out of words.... T/R will have to suffice. Smiley of Ramana in shades  8) cool dude, the coolest.

Love ya, Jed.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2014, 11:21:49 pm by Jed McKenna »

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Re: Hi, Sally here...
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 06:22:38 pm »
Hi Jed, it's 2 cents worth here.

Thank you for your reply. it was perfect and just what I wanted (lol).
Looking into Ramana's eyes i imagine I see a total acceptance and lack of 'clinging'. I agree he looks like a beautiful presence.

You ask me what I'm Clinging to? and it must be big. Yeah... I've been contemplating this since your post. I still don't have it nailed. But i think I'm clinging to a dream of how life should be, how 'a' life should be, how 'my' life should be. You know - all the happy families, fairy tale endings and happy ever afters. Part of me sees through it and rebels and says "F*** You" to those that tell me how I should think and behave - but another part of me is desperate to please, not offend anyone, get approval and a happy ever after ending.

There you go - I think I'm close to my 250 words - so i'll stop now.

love as always- Sal

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Re: Hi, Sally here...
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2014, 02:24:38 am »
How do you know when you are H/A or T/R. Good question. How do you ever now anything? By evidence or direct experience. There is a knowingness that is pretty hard to define, but trust you will know.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2014, 05:35:01 am »
Hi Jed, i feel a vague urge to write another post. Just to keep up the pretense I'm doing something on the T/R journey. Truth is it feels like I'm just treading water - not drowning like i guess I should (or used to be).

I think (?) that I've been through my 3-4 years of the 'dark night of the soul' (DKOTS) or whatever one wants to call that miserable, black "is this life for **** real?" place. Now, the maya crap still keeps coming - but I can handle it much better and am just not as scared or worried about it anymore. I see the never-ending ups and downs that 'life' (maya?) throws my (and others) way and yes it does look almost like the proverbial wheel of samsara - all movement and change - but also same ol' same ol' - all the even new happenings/feeling etc are almost familiar. Though, I'm sure I've got more fears/attachments that will unearth themselves and cause intense suffering over time.

Anyway, I guess because I'm not 'suffering' so much (maybe the anti-depressants are helping that!) I'm nowhere near as compelled as I was during the DKOTS to do/read/question this waking up thingy (which obsessed me every waking and sleeping moment through that time). Fact is I've questioned an awful lot and can't really think of (m)any question's i don't know the answer to (and of course the answer I've found is that there is none, or at least, I haven't got a fucken clue).

I do think/try perceive about what is/is not true many, many times daily. I move from participating in the dream (albeit now with less suffering) to sometimes seeing the lie/ridiculousness (and fun) of it all.

**** - I've go to be over 250 words by now. lol. So, again, I'll make up a question. "From here, do I just meander along or go off my meds and suffer some more,  or just join u for a relaxing beer at the Barnone?"

Love sall xxx

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Re: Hi, Sally here...
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2014, 05:39:56 am »
****, ****, poo, ****, ****, bastard, prick, ****, love rod (lol), ****, intercourse, sex, golden shower, bondage, bonking, pee

Just curious as to how many/which ones get redacted!

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Re: Hi, Sally here...
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2014, 07:34:55 am »
Testing it, or me? I'm not crazy about the meds, not for your sake, you do what you want, but interacting means I am interacting with a drug and not a person.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2014, 03:46:04 am »
**** me! and here I was beginning to realise there was no 'you' there and no 'person' here - let alone 'two' of us to do any interacting! - and then u go an do the confusing Guru contradiction thingy. FYI: It's not like I'm off my face every hour of every day! But maybe they do blunt the sharp edges a bit too much. I'd rather keep on 'em for the time being though. Does that rule me out of ashraming?  :'(

Love Sall (100mg of Sertraline daily keeps me happy)

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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2014, 06:18:51 am »
Thanks Jedbot, I do want to get off the anti-Ds, but until I'm T/R the dream is sometimes quite untenable and i guess I'm not yet H/A enough to be able to cope with it all by my chemical lonesome - too much crappy conditioning. I don't think it too bad to have a chemical breather from the worst effects of maya? It's almost like a step in the right direction - i.e. non-attachment to crap - but with a chemical crutch. At least i can see how it can feel and maybe reproduce it off Anti-Ds later.

Anyhoo, I'm still a 'person' (unfortunately)- just vaguely happier. And I am so looking forward to dying - one way or another...... (FYI: I'd never hasten the physical aspect - but I will welcome oblivion when it is my time, the joke's wearing thin).

Love sall xx

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Re: Hi, Sally here...
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2014, 07:36:01 am »
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Re: Hi, Sally here...
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2014, 03:25:50 pm »
Hi Jed, I keep trying to think of something to write or ask u on the site. I keep coming up empty or at least 'making up' something that is not really a burning issue for me. I know I'm in a dream - a very convincing one. I know all my issues and questions reside within the dream. The dream is very fun, very tragic, very interesting, very sad, very repetitive, very bizarre, very everything - but all in my head. Anything I ask or that rises up is all very important (I guess) - but only within the dream.

So, do i try and find my important dream bits and focus on looking at/asking about them? Or do I try and keep realising they are just dream bits?

mwah Sall xxx

PS: What are u going to charge for the Nav Series and the retreats? When are they launching? They sound like they will be such fun! Can't wait...