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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2017, 03:13:54 am »
How can it be diy when there is no self to do anything and there is nothing and eveeything

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2017, 05:52:05 am »
You raise a good point, but you are still in your head and only "believe" what you are saying, when you ''know'' you will understand it all. Thinking won't take you there, it's the problem, not the solution.

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2017, 06:29:12 am »
Alright keep hitting me I’m taking on all comers seeing as you’re all both not real and really me who is nothing. I need more words with energy to knock me down

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #63 on: October 15, 2017, 08:36:23 am »
While thinking is, in reality, mostly the problem, you do need to start there, and kind of put the mind to sleep by a degree of logic and rationalization, and from there you move onwards.

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #64 on: October 15, 2017, 08:57:25 am »
So the whole nature of me is: me = real and you out there = real. But if me is just a thought then you and t he meaning I ascribe to you is a thought. So the thoughts of meaning/knowing have to go. And thought can’t undo thought. But maybe the understanding that this relationship is unreal can make it drop. But obviously I have this understanding yet I haven’t dropped. And I am feeling it when I think about it too so I don’t know what more there is other than repetitionn. But repetition sounds like yogic bullspit. Hmmm I wish I could un-hmm

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #65 on: October 15, 2017, 09:35:30 am »
Use a thorn to remove a thorn and then throw them both away (Ala: Ramana)

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #66 on: October 15, 2017, 09:58:38 am »
The self is so silly! My god thinking it’s a thing! Lol how silly. I am feeling like an u furling is happening. Maybe just a little longer and this silly self story will completely drop. It’s just a contraction of the physical senses coupled with habitual thoughts. Thank you Jed for the extra help not long now I think. Hahaha that’s the whole problem! Not long now I think. Such silliness!!!! Be back soon. Or rather I won’t be

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #67 on: October 15, 2017, 10:24:08 am »
Well this is unexpected. The self has been seen as the little pocket of oneness it was. Now it doesn’t matter and what it wanted doesn’t matter. The  is-ness is good enough. Relaxing. No angels and trumpets just no longer a painful desire for cute girls and cash cash cash. Ahhh it’s all good. It kind of feels like baby steps like I need to sit with this for a bit. Hmm that is interesting is that the self trying to make meaning? Oh silly self!

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #68 on: October 15, 2017, 11:32:21 am »
It’s done.... I think?????
There are still preferences for nice things. Like I’d rather be on my comfortable bed than in a jail cell for instance. But there isn’t the need for anything! Yay yay! I’m just content. There isn’t some out of body woo woo experience. There’s a more relaxed feeling in the body and a bit more awareness and tingling contentment. Thoughts aren’t bad either they are just what’s happening they can be enjoyed or not. The only real problem was this silly feedback loop of the apparent self. Now I can enjoy this hum drum humanness till it dies. Still kinda don’t want to die though because life seems much more interesting than the void. Does it sound to you like I’m done? I’m having some of the things the gurus all bang on about but some of it is different. I think I’ll still fear death because now life is so chill

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #69 on: October 15, 2017, 08:20:57 pm »
Well obviously that wasn’t it. I’m back to normal again. This is depressing now. Everyday life is all just meaningless and fake. I have no free will but the oneness that I can’t comprehend won’t reveal itself to me. Awesome

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2017, 08:45:32 am »
If you ''think'' you are done, you ain't. Thank God you are back to normal again.

Menu is not the meal and the symptoms are not the disease.

Further.

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2017, 08:49:07 am »
But going further is just another story. There is no me to go further. This is hell now.

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #72 on: October 17, 2017, 12:50:45 pm »
It isn’t that there’s nothing I can do. It’s that there is no me who could do anything anyway. Further implys that there is somewhere to go. There is just this but the me can’t get that because it’s contracted, it doesn’t exist and there is no free will because there is no actual will anyway. Rargh I just wish the me would drop off already.

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #73 on: October 17, 2017, 01:14:09 pm »
You wishing you would go away... only reinforcing more you...

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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
« Reply #74 on: October 17, 2017, 04:07:46 pm »
what else have you got to say?