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Jed McKenna

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2016, 09:50:15 am »
... no hand, not even a you... now what ya gonna do?

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2016, 09:53:26 am »
like who?
whatever is left here is listening to german rock music and crying

Guess will ust wait and see. Suicide doesn't seem a bad option

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2016, 09:56:59 am »
and sorry, Jed. I can't be honest, it's not part of the deal that I am. I can't tell you the truth, I can't tell you what I feel or think or do, because I'm absolutely full of ****. everything i say is a lie
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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2016, 10:12:31 am »
and btw - what is left if "I" is removed from the equation?

answer: come and see
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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2016, 10:51:12 am »
It's all so crazy I can't wrap my head around it.

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2016, 10:51:58 am »
guess will have to remove the head

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2016, 11:02:44 am »
this question "what ya gonna do" keeps buzzing in my mind.....

Why not kill myself if it doesn't make any difference? Good question. So far the only answer is "german electronic rock". As good as answer as any other. It just gives "me" pleasure. conditioning of course. What is the man supposed to do if anything he does makes no difference at all? Going out and saving a whale = killing an elderly person. Same difference. What the **** am I supposed to do now? I stick to German electronic rock. No ideas in my head. It doesn't matter if I get drunk or not, stoned or not. What's the differnce between dead or alive if there is no one to be dead or alive?

p.s. all you have to do to confuse everyone is ask a question. Like "who are you"? the more simple the question the more difficult to answer.
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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2016, 12:32:31 pm »
Does any question really have an answer???

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2016, 01:53:08 pm »
no answer, there can't be one

there is no one to answer

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2016, 02:05:52 pm »
I've been thinking about "who I am"....
Turd in the punch blowl is the best I could come up with. I stole it from you anyway

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2016, 03:55:00 am »
 ;) ;) ;) ;)

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2016, 06:57:59 am »
I have a problem with SA. It's difficult for me to explain it... but I just don't "feel" it yet.

Right now I'm on "proving time exists" and struggle through some physics forums....

I can't really read through this crap -- I sit here thinking I'm dreaming. Or better -- I'm a simulation within a dream...  How can I even think seriously about time?
Any tips how to really get this thing going?

You said stuff I wrote might seem ridiculous the next day. With me it doesn't go that quick -- but I just looked at stuff I wrote weeks or months ago and it seems dumb.

I'm observing my changing beliefs over time  -- it's tragicomical how convinced I was about one thing... only to discredit it a few months later. And I'd always think "now I've got it"... and argue about it. But those events were too separated....

 I'd go through a shift in months or years, inestead of days. To get through all the crap would really take a few dozen lifetimes, so I see SA as a way to intensify and accelerate... but still looking for a way to do this.

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2016, 07:53:09 am »
If S/A is a little ... hmm... stodgy.. for you, how about Nisargadatta's methodology.  Are you familiar with him?

BTW, I would suggest that if you take something like you mention... ''time is real/true''  and then start researching what others, perhaps more deluded than you, say about it, you are wasting time. You have your own apparent experiences as your teacher. Consult those. You have all you need right where you appear to be. Look and see.

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2016, 09:27:05 am »
Thank you Jed..


I just read about the guy now.... http://www.albigen.com/uarelove/nisargadatta_practice.htm


I don't know if that's the guy and this is the practice you mentioned. I'm unable to follow as I don't understand it. (if it's really him saying this not someone putting words in his mouth)

"You must ask with an undivided heart and live an integrated life. " - I have no idea what undivided heart or integrated life can be.

"Devotion to your goal makes you live a clean and orderly life, given to the search for truth and to helping people." I don't strive for clean life, have no goals and have no idea how to help people. I don't even want to, to be honest. I just can't understand the heart thing (your "I don't do heart" is one of the things that drawn me here). The only part that makes sense is "search of truth". But more probably search for "untruth".

I believe (sic!) the mistake I've made is going for something I already don't .... well, believe. Like the time. I will try to start with something I believe now....

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Re: how to move from here?
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2016, 01:22:15 am »
try ''I am that'' by Nis. Just get a book on his work. Not someones interpretation of it.

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