Author Topic: How to walk on the enlightenment path along with parenting?  (Read 453 times)

Ah mann

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Hello Jed,

I am new here and to be frank I do not really know if you are the real "Jed McKenna" whose forum is supposed to be more mysterious than the first to pop up when I searched on google.

I have read your first three Trilogy end 2015 and spent the time since then to digest what you had said in your book.  I am a mom for two children and feel particularly difficult to do my parenting job when I have your Truth on my mind.  I do not know how to guide them spiritually anymore as I can not tell a 8 years old that life is meaningless and nothing matters.  I would love to hear you re this as I do not  find too much in your book talking about being a parent to young children.

Many thanks Jed.

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Jed McKenna

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Hi there Ah:

Welcome and thanks for your question. It is indeed a good one. In my experience and observations, of which I have an embarrassing number of years to my credit, the mold has been pretty much cast by seven or eight years of age.

I assume you are not T/R and are sorta a follower (ooohhh.... my bad there) or just reading up on the subject. I certainly applaud that but when it comes to raising children, I much prefer answer to their questions be non-answers. My father happened to be brilliant at that. When I asked a questions he would inevitably invite some kind of mutual exploration of the subject.

Q: Hey day, what the lighted and heaviest word.... no answer,

Next day he arrived with a block of balsa and a similar sized on of lignum vitae. We both learned.. only I probably learned more than him. I was learning how to explore and parent.

How about an example of how you life is going with the little ones. Remember, you can't teach what you don't know but you can always model out learning and discover for all parties.

Love ya, Jed.

Ah mann

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Thanks Jed.  Excited to receive your prompt reply.  What's T/R?  Sorry I know very little of the short forms in your field. 

To be specific, I am concerning how to lead my children when they ask about god and religion.  As we all know, no religion is authentic so I suppose it may not be a good idea to let my children to be say a Christian for now just for them to feel mentally safe and secure, then telling them what they used to believe in their whole life as true and sacred was just nonsense when they are 20.

Besides, raising children in daily life is far more than answering their questions when they are curious about the would.  There are all sorts of discipline, emotional & behavior issues, along with schooling, training and others.  And my question is if everything that had happened is just prefect, why bother? 

What do you think about Anthroposophy and Waldorf Education?  Before I read your book, I thought they are the path of truth.  But now, I have nothing to hold on.

Thanks again.

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Took my child to Waldorf... probably about 10 years old at the time, not bad, but really just a better factory. Much home schooling followed that. Schools are almost all institutionalized child abuse.... and I don't say that lightly.

My suggestion is STOP TELLING THEM, especially things that you know are outright lies... do you think they can't sense lies.... probably a crap load better that you can.

Q: Is there a God, (or for the dyslexics in the crowd..''Is there a Dog.)  ??? ??? ???
A: Well, that's a great question. There a so many people that think they have the answer.... let's start a little book, (drawings if younger) and you and I explore that question... so, if there was a God, would it be a man or a woman. (of course that's a trick question. Anyone with half a brain knows it's a woman). Maybe we can go to different temples, churches or mosques and see what other folks think. Perhaps read some books on the subject. Don't waste time sitting around rationalizing better ways to lie.

Remember (ohh... I can here the hate mail coming in) it is NOT you job to love your child, and I am not saying that there is nothing wrong with that, however, JOB #1 is raising your child to become and adult, and just possibly make some future contribution to the dream of humanness by then going out into the world and raising more adults.

You child will model out what you do, be it lying or b.s. or perhaps a sense of questioning and curiosity. He/she will model out parts of you that even you are not aware of, so here is an opportunity for you to grow and learn as much as your child.

Spirit of inquiry... when a child says ''Why?" practice saying something more Truthish, like ''I don't know'', or ''Let's see what we can find out about that.''. Also, forgive your parents (this is a biggie). They were raise by people who for the most part had no training and no clue as to how to parent. Also read Dumbing us Down, by John Gatto. Brilliant and honest work.

AND, for heaven's sake, put more fun in your life. I can smell a serious fun deficiency. It's the best way to learn.

T/R means Truth Realization, AKA, enlightenment, realizing your True Nature, and a variety of other words used to describe what cannot be described... perhaps throw ''God'' in there too.

I wish you the best... and realize that you're going to screw up plenty... so never forget to forgive yourself. It's just part of this wonderful dream.

Love ya, Jed.

Ah mann

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Thanks for your long answers and recommendation of the John's book.  Shall look into it. 

I am not a follower of any religion. I'm not sure the definition of qualifying a T/A but I am on my way, recognizing the smell of ego and fear, finding my own answer to your riddle of the big red button that kills everyone in Switzerland, not to mention identifying H/A around me, and throwing a small part of me away everyday... buzy enough indeed.  I know I'm just an actress but as long as I am still playing the mom's role which is a heavy role, I can't be nobody yet can I?

Freud and Jung talked about dreams are projections of unconsciousness.  Just curious (I have my curiosity too) as a T/A, I suppose you are fully conscious.  Do you still make dreams at night?  If you do what are they representing?

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Dreams occur sometimes and not sometimes. Haven't had a ''bad'' dream in over twenty years, but why do you ask. Are you trying attach some importance and significance to dream? Don't waste your time. Night dreams are as insignificant as this day dream.

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. you already have more than enough importances to weigh you down.

Ah mann

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Ah right, of course, but it's not about significance for me, it's about consciousness and unconsciousness.  I guess I want a proof that "dreams are projection of unconsciousness" is nonsense just like all other theories in any academic field.  I've been spending some years lightening my unconsciousness as "unconsciousness is king".  But your trilogy was telling me that everything is just my consciousness.  So I wonder is a T/R has no unconsciousness anymore and has nothing to project hence no dreams or nightmares.  In typing this now, I am thinking even what I thought as uncon was actually part of my con too.

So no dreams are important, regardless day or night.  My question is how to live life then as I have nothing to strive?  No role to play but not yet dead?

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What's the problem, you don't have any choice anyways, so about the only thing to do is watch what arises... that's all I do and you'd be surprised how well it works out. Try it.

Love ya, Jed.

Ah mann

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So does it mean that if there is something you feel that you want to achieve or work on, say trying to make a better life or help children etc, they are all a product of ego who needs satisfaction or recognition?  Any exception?  Who makes the judgement? 

It's probably not a problem not doing anyway but wouldn't it be bored sometimes?  So what a T/R would do in daily life is answering online questions from those he does not even know?  No intention to offend, just want to know.

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Well... it seems to be what this dream body is inclined to do... now. Tomorrow I might become a rock star... no one here to know and no one here to care...

Mind, ego and society will ask ''Isn't that boring?''. How can never knowing that is going to arise next be boring? It's quite fascinating and always different.

As to answering questions on the forum and running the Series ... I have no idea why I do it and enjoy it. It's beyond me.   ::) ::) ::)

Love ya, Jed.

Ah mann

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Hello Jed,

Just thinking now family and relationship are some kind of "born stuff", they are not easy to get rid of especially when you have elderly parents and young children surrounding you daybavc night.  I know it sounds silly as life is at present and tomorrow is just s concept.  But practically, I can not just dump my children and walk away one day (can you?).  Do you think be patient and just wait till a certain phase of life to end say parents passed away and kids grown would be a better timing to focus on T/R?