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Jed McKenna

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Jed on letting go
« on: October 02, 2014, 01:33:40 am »
A member asked how to let go of things. Here is my response.

Regarding dropping things, once again, you are asking the wrong question.

HOW DO YOU HOLD ONTO THINGS IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT. Now, that is something that is truly amazing. Here we go... do this...

Pick up something in your hand, an apple, a pen, a rock. Now hold onto it. How hard is that? Can you hold onto it a little tighter, and tighter. Sure you can, eazy peezy. You can squeeze till your hand turns blue. Did the rock change, turn into a diamond or the like?

Now, do the most amazing thing imaginable... let go. You don't have to drop it or throw it away, just release your grip. Stop.. slow down.. and realize... it's never any harder than that unless you want it to be. But your little mind needs some practice. And it's going to say, 'I can't do it', 'She/he did this and that', 'I'll never forgive that bastard'. It's all about your being right and somehow wronged (in most cases).

Let me ask you this. Are those memories any more substantial than that rock? Please contemplate. How much does your memory weigh. What color is it. How hard is it on the MOHS scale (Memories of Heavy ****). Then there is the rock you just let go off. Time to get real and get your you know what our  of your you know what. Rocks, memories, which is more ephemeral. How much does a memory weight? Forgiveness may be another word for it, but I'm not big on it because of the religious connotations. If that works for you, use it. There is no one to forgive and nothing to forgive, but carry that rock in your pocket for a day or two (really) and then decide if you would be smart to carry it around for the REST OF YOUR LIFE. This is a real assignment that I would like you do to.

Good memories, bad memories, there is no difference, the more you carry the more you weigh. Just ask fat people if they have any memories. What do you think they are carrying around. If you believe Dr. Gupta of CNN you will think it's fat cells. Horse crap, it's coagulated memories and you can tell him that for me if you ever meet him.

Think about this, are you being a complete idiot and assigning more weight to something you are imagining than to something/someone that's  right in front of you. You gaze into the eyes of infinite love and all you can think about is the fact that he didn't take the garbage out this morning, or she didn't screw you last night. That's a sin in my book, well, not really, it's just stupid. Please don't be stupid, I'm not big on having stupid people around me. Oh, they are o.k., but I just don't learn much from them and I love to learn. O.K., O.K., stupid people are welcome as long as they LET GO! They they are no longer stupid.

Find that rock, (not unreasonably big) put it your pocket and report back. You may also wish to sleep with it. No pockets? Just tape it to your belly.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Jed on letting go
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 11:19:47 am »
Letting go = letting (it) be

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Re: Jed on letting go
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2014, 02:12:29 am »
Letting go =/= letting (it) be


Letting it be can imply a more inactive approach to the matter. Going back to Jed's stone simile, you could have a stone with you at all times and justify the fact that you don't let go of it by "letting it be" where it already is. letting go of that stone is a deliberate action, based on a decision of traveling lighter.

What I would like for Jed to illuminate on is the nature of individuality. The illusion appears as if one needs of these stones (the most valuable of them anyway) not to get astray in the    vastness of infinity. 

If one is to explore this reality, wouldn't it be more enjoyable to do so with perspective? or is that only the reflex towards safety that does not yield to the idea of dissolving oneself in unity? It seems that sooner or latter we come back to this individual state of being, so wouldn't it be better to have the "I" nice and together when we come back?

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Re: Jed on letting go
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2014, 04:35:23 am »
Letting go

I walked to work and just came upon a small stone/rock about the size of a golf ball. It was probably basalt or dolerite or known in the NE as ‘Whinstone’ after the Great Whin Sill (the geological intrusion along which the Roman Emperor Hadrian, built his Wall – to keep the Scots out of England).  I popped it in the back top pocket of my shirt. At work I debated with myself whether to replace it with a larger one (representing a larger / more challenging memory) that would have been easy to go down to the Rock Mechaincs lab and have any one of my choice, but I stuck with what I had.

I chaired a long meeting at work and with the team. I had the rock in my top pocket and in order to avoid having to answer questions about what I was doing with a lump of basalt in my top pocket, I camouflaged it with a couple of pencils and a train ticket and occasionally my mobile phone as well.
Later I drove to Birmingham, getting there for 21:00 me and my colleague Chis went out for a meal. Going to bed, I decided to keep the shirt on (I usually do now have any clothes at night). Which ever way I lay, I could feel the stone was ‘pulling’ and occasionally when turning over I’d roll over onto it and it would be a needle into the ribs or chest. It was not un-ignorable but I had to keep adapting to it presence. It was not particularly challenging an I managed to sleep ok.

In the morning I undressed and went into the shower, being naked and thus having no pockets. I had to  hold the stone in my hand. This did not make for easy washing. In order to wash my hair and shave, and maintain contact, I stood on the stone with my let foots, suddenly its presence was no only un-ignorable it was really intrusive. I was unbalanced (hips slanted over to one side) and uncomfortable. Washing and therefore raising my right foot meant resting much of my weight on the stone via the soft skin of the instep of the sole de-stabilised my foundation. What was previously a small weight in a pocket now became a completely destabilising presence and I was having to hold onto the walls of the shower cubicle.

After 10 minutes I got out of the shower and dried off. Holding the stone made drying off difficult, so as me and the stone had been cleaned in the shower, and I reckoned there’d be room – I put the stone in my mouth – it fit – just. I’m sitting here writing into my SA notebook tasting the residual soil flavour of the stone. My experience is dominated now by this stone. I can function, after a fashion, but I can not breathe properly, If I wanted to I’d not be able to not speak, drink or eat, cough  sneeze, chew or smile or swallow properly. And my mouth is filling up with saliva and I’m going to start dribbling soon!
If this stone represents memories it can be easily ignored with little consequence – so long as there is lots going on it is relatively easy to both hide it from public view and to get on with your ‘normal life’. As I became more intimate with my personal life – symbolised by the removal of clothes which represent other memories, behaviours and characteristics etc of a ‘public persona’ this stone memory comes to centre stage and starts first to become very noticeable (still manageable) then hinder functioning and finally, as the process of refining or cutting away goes FURTHER the memory  becomes THE MAIN THING in experience dominating everything.

I need to dress and continue the day. I take the stone out of my mouth, dry it off with my hands. It is 23 hrs and 45 mins since I first pick up the stone. At this point I do not consider the stone has much more to teach so even though I’m 15mins short of the full day, I put it gently in the waste bin, dress and leave the room.  Standing in the corridor outside the hotel room and reflecting on this experiment, I linger with door pulled to but not closed. I am tempted to go back in to retrieve the stone from the bin as a momento of this very useful insight. I can already envisage where it will go – on the shelf in my office between a lump of green fluorite and a photo of my wife.  “Old habits die hard” I think – I gently pull the door closed and walk on.
During the course of the day, I noticed a small stone in my shoe – I removed it instantly. I also had things in my shirt pocket – pencils and train tickets – useful things. Used and then put away in a proper place – let go. Holding onto stuff has no useful function and really really gets in the way!

Dear Jed, this was an excellent experiment. Doing it made it 'personal' it helps really understand (I hope) – got any more?

Best, John
« Last Edit: October 04, 2014, 05:36:49 am by JohnLB »

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Re: Jed on letting go
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2014, 06:12:09 am »
Good work John:

Diligent award of the week.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Jed on letting go
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2014, 01:36:48 am »
Thanks, Jed. And also thanks immensely for that research, John.

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Re: Jed on letting go
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2014, 10:01:42 am »
I almost picked up a rock today.

I was watching Bill Mahr, Sam Harris and Ben Affleck (really?) debate Islamophobia and I found myself coming to conclusions like "Wow, Sam Harris is on target here" and "Wow, Ben Affleck is a handsome idiot" and soon I was brandishing some belief that "Hey, the Christians stopped (for the most part) killing heretics and apostates years ago, why can't the muslims come out of the dark ages as well?" And quite quickly I had something to add to the fray and since the format I was watching on had a place to share an opinion I began typing away, My big mind working feverishly for about 30 seconds and then. BOOM!

WTF? How easily Maya slides back in, this is the razors edge, it's what Maughm was talking about, so easy to let your guard down a little and be nestled back into an old pattern, am I correct in thinking this is similar to the moment in the trilogy when Jed tips his hat to Maya after catching himself thinking something shouldn't be a certain way for a moment but then realizing the falseness of that thought as Maya appears in the room asking him if she is real?

Bending over to pick up a large stone and in the nick of time seeing Maya's fingerprints all over it... perfect. NEXT.

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Re: Jed on letting go
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2014, 10:14:23 am »
Excellent awareness. It's all a trap. Just watch it and avoid being sucked in.

But remember, Maya doesn't exist any more than you do. All means all and it's ALL illusion.

Sometime we just need a little story to move things along... where to... darned if I know.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2014, 11:59:42 am »
Get so IMMERSED in whatever it is you are trying to 'get rid' of... The effect is... you'd get utterly pissed off, or plain bored of the whole thing. Then, as I mentioned before.. it gets dumped in a pile, and one walks away, not turning back.

A passionate (PASSIONATE, 100%, no excuses!!!) embrace of whatever you want to dump. Go on every diet there is.. fight with your mother... have as much sex as you can *ahem* get hold of.. make yourself SICK of it all... Enlightenment? Read every bloody book in existence and let your mind wander in circles around it until it bleeds and you cannot cope with your 'search' anymore..  'Love' it to death. Yeah, it'll drop. Will go up in flames. DO IT WITH PASSION!

I mentioned before that fascination with the Mind, and look at it here... it feels like it's one and the same person talking on all the threads, in different states, moods, life situations, but holy crap!!!! the same!
I feel I'm oversaturated now. Should last for some time before I feel compeled to quip anything.

Ah ****.. don't care anymore.

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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2014, 01:48:43 am »
In my experience the realization that there is no me making any decisions solves everything step by step.
I am not in control of life, life is controlling me. Meaning there is nothing I can do wrong and for that matter nothing I can do right.
If telling this to “others” they find this an attack to their core belief. The belief “I” exist. Find out if you really exist, find this person who wants to fight his mother, who wants to have sex, who is it that fights everything. Who is it and where is it made out of and what are you fighting.  If there is no realization that there is no YOU than putting things to the extreme doesn’t solve the letting go or anything else for that matter because you still think there is a you that has the power to make decisions. Find out there is no YOU controlling life but life is controlling YOU, nothing to do right or wrong. There is great liberation in it. But the price is YOU! Well now I have to let go of letting go.

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Re: Jed on letting go
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2014, 08:35:41 am »
I asked a fat person if she had memories, she replied "I'm not fat"