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KenBrace

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Karma
« on: February 04, 2018, 08:15:09 am »
Hey Jed,

What do you think about the idea of karma?

I don't mean the popular, new age idea that there is a cosmic justice system that punishes and rewards actions based on their ethical quality. I mean the concept that Alan Watts talks about which is basically the idea that your entire existence is your own doing. That there is only the eternal now and that space doesn't act. The moment an idea of "self" forms so that an action can be taken, a complementary "other" forms along with it. Usually, we identify with the "self" half but forget the equally important "other" half and don't realize that the two are creating each other. So then in that case, what you do happens to you and what happens to you is what you do, since "doing" and "happening" create each other.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Ken
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Jed McKenna

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Re: Karma
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2018, 08:30:32 am »
Not many thoughts at all. What you have presented is just thoughts and ideas... find out what is real for you.

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KenBrace

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Re: Karma
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2018, 11:29:28 am »
When you say that nothing is real, what do you mean by “real”? Is awareness real?
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Jed McKenna

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2018, 01:42:43 am »
Humans are 180 degrees off on almost everything. Anything you think is real is not real, now... what is left  ??? ??? ???

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KenBrace

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Re: Karma
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2018, 11:10:42 am »
I guess nothing would be left. Any thoughts on how the illusion is created? Because it seems like there would be nothing to create it.
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Re: Karma
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2018, 11:36:39 am »
So would unity consciousness then just be a dream where you clearly understand the pattern with which the dream unfolds? Karma would be the dreams unfolding pattern.
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Jed McKenna

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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2018, 11:15:02 pm »
Don't complicate things unnecessarily. Anything you can see, hear or feel (experience) is not ''It''. Focus on what doesn't appear to arise, on the context, the space it arises in. Don't worry about how the illusion is created. That's just mental foolery. You sound like a smart cookie... but are you smart enough to play the fool... to realize that there is no point in looking for something where it doesn't exist.... and the answers you seek do you exist in any mind or any story...

Love ya, Jed

P.S. All my blathering is also a story.... ah...crap!
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KenBrace

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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2018, 11:07:07 am »
Hey Jed, what are your thoughts on the idea of a permanent ego death? Ram Dass talks about how you can enter the “wedding feast” with psychedelics but if you aren’t wearing the right “garments” you’ll get kicked out. He also said that once you’ve glimpsed the possibility with drugs, there was no longer any point in using them. You might as well get on with the real work. You can destroy your ego temporarily with a drug but once it wears off, your old mental patterns settle back in. It doesn’t seem like realizing a truth about the universe is the same thing as clearing ones mind of negative patterns. I remember having an ego death once and I could clearly see what caused the suffering in my life. At the time, I thought I would be in that void state forever since the truth was extremely obvious and there’s no way I’d be able to forget any of it. I still remember the key realization “on paper” so to speak but it’s not the same as feeling it with every fiber of your being. Knowing that you’re the inside and the outside intellectually is not the same as feeling both sides of the universe moving together in this moment and intuitively understanding life’s unfolding pattern.
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Jed McKenna

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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2018, 12:05:26 pm »
It's no enough that you understand, it's important that you don't misunderstand. Everything you think you understand is definitely a misunderstanding. For heaven's sake, don't ask me to explain that... because it would make it an understanding. Understand?

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KenBrace

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2018, 09:52:48 am »
Hey Jed, so recently I’ve been getting these incredible rushes that go up my spine and cause my forehead to raise. It’s sort of like if you’ve ever been listening to music and got goosebumps when a really good part kicked in, except way more intense and it lasts longer. It’s accompanied by feelings of falling in love with life. I also feel pressure starting at the base of my spine and whenever I get these rushes, the wave starts from there and goes upward. When this first started happening my intuition told me that this is what it feels like when you are coming into alignment with the rest of the universe. I’ll have a thought pop up about what I should be focusing on in life and it feels so much like the right way to go that I start getting those rushes. I did some research and the closest thing I’ve found that describes what I’m experiencing is Kundalini. Any thoughts on what this might be or have you experienced anything similar yourself?
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2018, 11:23:16 am »
In the past I have experienced a number of such things... and thankfully I knew enough to ignore them. They are distractions, sometimes quite wonderful, but distractions nonetheless. Ignore then.

T/R is not an experience, it's a very deep knowing that is not describable. Ignore experiences... what's next? What's left... that's You!

Love ya, Jed.

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KenBrace

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2018, 10:50:01 am »
Is truth realization related to how the brain functions? If the brain dies at death, then wouldn't the awakened existence vanish? At that point, awakening will have simply provided a temporary change in how the rest of this life is experienced. Do you think experience continues after the brain dies and if so, what impact would enlightenment have?
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Jed McKenna

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2018, 05:09:06 am »
Imagine you are going on a holiday, let's say Grand Canyon. You drive there in a car, (brain) but, you don't see the canyon until you part the care, turn it off, step out and walk to the edge. If you are still with me, JUMP!

Love ya, Jed.
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KenBrace

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2018, 01:52:54 pm »
You say that Truth realization and unity consciousness are not the same thing.

However, how is unity consciousness possible without realizing Truth?
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Jed McKenna

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2018, 11:22:53 pm »
Unity Consciousness... assuming we are talking about the same thing, perhaps call is ''non-dual awareness'' is a symptom on this journey, not an end point. It is still an experience and needs something to arise within, an larger context, that infinite context is Truth. Truth Realization is not an experience, it is a knowing. If one sets a hierarchy, Truth is on top... nothing further when you realize that.

Love ya, Jed.
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