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Dear Arturo:

Welcome to the forum and your questions are excellent.

Certainly a degree of self-hypnosis can be a part of this journey. But as with many things in life.... they are not what they appear to be. In my experience there is a deep hypnosis which has occurred through and by society, education, peers, governments, etc. and at it's deeper foundation lies Maya/ego. Much of the Nav Series is about de-hypnosis, awakening someone from their trance. You may well be running yourself through some illusory experiences in an effort to mimic my, and other's, experiences. However this can be a good way to stretch yourself into other possibilities. If you didn't think that H/A and T/R were at least a possibility they you would not put any effort into them. Thinking they are possible could be seen as a mild form or hypnosis.

You mentioned that most of your ''experiences'' came when you were doing something else, not efforting, and that is very common. It's like not being able to remember something, but when you give up a few moments later it comes to you clear as day. Growth in this arena can be gradual. You study something diligently and don't think you have made any headway and then when you throw up your hands and get on with life you find your experiences are different, you don't react the same way.

This is progress and you are, IMHO, doing just fine doing what you are doing. Stick with it, do whatever you do with all your heart, and then throw it away for a while.

Love ya, Jed

Dear Jed
How do you know when you can move on?
I am more dedicated to write style S/A and it has been working well  for me since I found my own way to do it. I use writing with some self hypnosis and other things. What really helped (and keep helping )me to spark the process is to focus on someone else I personally know, who obviously is locked into some kind of fiction or situation or suffering based on delusion or story they are telling to themselves. I focus on a possible way that person could become aware of their being stuck in that specific mud they are currently in, then I hijack the process, the impulse and I apply it to myself.  Surprisingly,  very real "demons" show up. They are all me ,they have been all along. They all create a context where they make sense and where they are the best possible alternative for everything.  It's all so "real" and so convincing, that the only defense against them is to say "you are not real, you are a lie".
I just don't know how much to deal with it... I mean, the same situation,  the same character, the same demon showing up over and over in my life and molding so much of my hopes and goals. I know I don't have to "correct this aspect of me" because there's not a  me but probably more and more characters.  I could go over all my personal history reviewing to deal with that specific character I currently observing but... how do  you know to keep going  to  reveal the next layer or to stay until you are done with your current "demon"?
Thanks

What I mean to demon is .... the current character that I am, that is giving shape to my thinking and my world. In a way I see myself to be a demon. It's like in my... mind (being??,consciuosness??)many movies that are running at the same time and you really believe that is real, The moment you leave one, you go to another (happens automatically). Even if you see that you are in a false context and you are not you but.... something not real, can't shake it off.  Well that's a definition of Demon, it's the current perspective from where I  witness my inner and outer world, my character and it's reality  working both as a unit

Today doing some writing  I was able to get some insight on this topic. I only read your 4 first books and almost all the examples you use of people who were able to "advance", were all having some kind of psychological or even physical downfall that led to their need to find answers. You don't particularly describe  cases of people who have endured abuse from others or that are related to people who have been victims of others. I personally have gone through both and... it's not so easy to just let go. I have been putting a lot of thoughts to that. Especially when you have cases of people who are close to you and have been physically or psychologically victimized by other humans. Somehow it feels like... you are abandoning them win their misery.
Today doing some writing I remember how you talked to Curtis when he told you he has seen evil and asked you the why of evil. You didn't respond to that but rather managed to be less general and to "commit" to one question.
Well ...What I was able to get out of this and from my own experience is that: I don't have a pure and honest reaction to what I witness but my reaction is in some degree reaffirming the Me and the characteristics that define the Me through action or through words. My realization today was awkward. I see that I cannot really change. It's not that I do things or that I think certain things or feel X and could change this or that. What I see is that the I doesn't really have a "real" existence but rather behaves like a bicycle that can only be up when it' is being propelled into movement. The actions, thoughts and ideas that presuppose the existence of the me (not the pure me but the me with it's personality, psychological content  and history)give impulse to the me to keep "existing". Thinking that there's an I that can change is just wrong, it's seen things backwards, delusional arrogance. It may sound a little confusing and I have to work on it more to see where it goes .

I got it.
Thanks Jed