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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2016, 10:59:37 pm »
Hi Jed,
What did you mean "many folks have simply too much emotional pain, and that saps energy and focus. So, searching can assist on in that." ?

It sounds like you're talking about healing...?
I feel like I have a lot of emotional pain, and its always seemed that way despite not knowing what it is or why its there. Ive spent a lot of energy over the years 'healing' in order to try and function better, but even 'healing' was extremely stressful.
I know in some yoga practices i've done that meditation and breathing techniques are said to purify the nervous system, kind of to clear the emotional or karmic debris (but i dont really know or understand it that much).
But I feel a conflict with the non dual 'no self' and then 'healing' or growth. It seems that skipping to 'but i dont exist' can be repressive and be counterproductive?

Over the last few months i have to admit my brain has gone to mush. It really hard to form thoughts or ideas or make sense of things. Its not a feeling of 'awakening' or 'clarity' or anything like that. I feel like im becoming really dumb, when i used to think i was intellectual and sharp. Through doing Scott Kiloby's enquiries recently ive realised that i dont release or feel things fully on the physical level, only conceptually, so maybe im going through a big release of pent up 'feeling' (without the stories attached) that is muddling me..
So there arent clear questions in here but if you could please clear up what you meant, thankyou :)

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2016, 11:13:34 pm »
I mean pretty much what I said. What specifically don't you understand about it?

Your past work is fine but none of it addresses the importances. These are like the glue that keep memories in place. Importances can be released but it takes some learning and effort.

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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2016, 12:43:06 am »
Its been a few weeks since ive written in here. I felt the need to 'stop' and just be alive so I did. My brain felt like mush during any kind of inquiry and when i asked questions i couldn't understand the words anymore. They were flat and without meaning, just like images of letters. It didn't seem like a conscious decision but more like an arising of 'stop'. But it also occurred to me it may be the ultimate Maya distraction technique, its true that I fell asleep as soon as i read your words "maya will want you to take a nap right about now". haha! But either way i did it.
Its interesting to me that in this time everything just flowed, things came to my attention and all conversations were connected, it felt like i had released the tiller. Before it felt like i was trying not to live, in fear i'd fall back into distraction. But that was also a form of resistance to what is. I ended up being led to exercises of integrating my emotional body. Im not sure where it fits into the scheme of things, but it helped me to drop my stories about blaming my parents/others for my emotional issues & patterns, because i could see myself attaching to the thought/feeling even as a baby. And also through this i realised that even though i havent been able to let myself feel my emotions in the body, I place alot of importance on them mentally. They seem like the most significant indicator of anything in my life, the most 'real' thing even though i wasn't really feeling them. So what i did is i sensed emotions in my body and connected them to the memory of the first time i experienced it and then let myself fully feel it... but it was quite a traumatic experience in a way, i felt completely drained for days.

Is it necessary to use the memory to feel and then release the emotion? Or is awareness in your body enough?
I feel like whatever this is i've done is related to importances but i need more information. Ive read about it but its brief..

Everytime i write in the forum i feel like im dropping down an anchor point to pivot off, and its so scary because i feel im going to look around and not know where i am.!  ??? :-\ :-[


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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2016, 06:20:42 pm »
Im feeling burnt alive by all the contradictions. So much so that im immobilised. I dont know how to proceed without having 100% sincerity and burning desire, yet why should i because this is IT right infront of me right? I feel like im resisting everything, including life itself. Im resisting following a 'spiritual path' because the only motivation to do so would be based on an expectation and then that would be blocking the truth. When i try to 'surrender' and just do what comes I still feel anxiety building in the background (like this is a premature step for me) so i do work on what resistance is causing the anxiety, then all of a sudden im on a path with expectations again.  I feel physically ill with the weight of it all. I feel trapped in my life, this spiritual rollercoaster seems just as unhealthy as the rest of the dramas.
Any advice?  :-\

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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2016, 09:08:29 pm »
How many contradictions and paradoxes can you entertain. It's a pretty good measure of where you are at.

Advice, puke and get on with life.

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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2016, 06:10:45 am »
Hi Jed,
I've been doing the "what will my next thought be?" ... What I've noticed is really simple, I don't know my next thought. It appears and I see it or perceive it or whatever, it doesn't seem to come from me. So I'm not thinking 'my' own thoughts? This kind of reinforced the whole surrender thing. One thing you wrote has stuck with me for awhile now 'you can only feel something by pushing against it'. So my life has basically been me resisting what is. But if my thoughts aren't coming from me, how can I be resisting? . It seems my only practice is to surrender/accept every moment, thought, everything. I'm so used to searching for meaning in everything, but meaning is given its not inherent right? So without meaning I give, there is no point.
But it doesn't work atm. I'm still attached to thoughts, emotions. I don't have stillness/witness. It's  theoretical for me. When I try to surrender to what arises I go back to my old life. I feel like I'm being  sucked back in. And I can see I have an expectation of what surrender is but I haven't seen through it.
Can you suggest where to go from here pls  ???
Thanks jed

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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2016, 08:26:19 am »
Just surrender to your old life, it's no more or less valid than you current life. They are all illusory.

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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2016, 02:53:57 am »
Hello again Jed,
I've realised in my life i've been obsessed with 'meaning' & 'meaningful' things. And it only just occurred to me that meaning is not inherent, its given. So that makes me laugh out loud hysterically  :D During this SA there has kind of been a theme for me of assumptions and expectations. As i uncover each one I replace it with a newer more refined one (actually more subtle to detect one). My thoughts & stories rush to fill every gap of nothingness, or i dont know'ness. And beneath ALL of this, I THINK I KNOW SOMETHING. I have not had one single honest moment in my entire life.  ??? ::) ;D

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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2016, 09:40:59 am »
.... at the best... truthish, be you are not alone...

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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2016, 07:38:47 pm »
My story is so thick, it seems unpenetratable, its so hard not to believe it. I pierce and pierce and it keeps swallowing me up. Yesterday for 1 second when i smelt a flower I felt a glimpse of the world without a story. It didn't need anything added to it. But this task seems undoable. I dont even really believe that anyone has really done it. At about age 7/8 i started thinking life was a dream and would try and wake myself up.. Around 11 i started wanting to 'discover my nature'. By my early 20's i just wanted out. Im 30 now and im so tired. Ive tried just 'living' but my story is so thick with emotional pain that seems to cast a shadow over everything. Ive always had suicidal ideation and often I feel so close. But then I think well why not kill my ego, why not die while living if im willing to die? But its a slow drawn out death,  so slow that i forget what i want or what im doing. Give me a spiritual shotgun to the head so i can blow my brains out please!

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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2016, 12:14:45 am »
Blah, blah, blah, blah and more blah, blah.

Put up or shut up (said with profound love and respect)

Jed.

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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2016, 02:53:50 am »
Hi Jed,
Your last reply came down on me like a ton of bricks. At first I thought you didnt read my post properly and my metaphor, but then i realised it didnt matter and your response would probably have been the same. I didnt know, or didnt want to know actually, what you meant by 'put up'. But i think i get it now, and Im ready to do the work. So thank you, Ill be back at some point
Love

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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2016, 07:43:32 am »
Talk later...

Love ya, Jed.