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Jed McKenna

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Re: Solute
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2015, 04:22:58 am »
Yes, it is pretty funny.

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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2015, 07:58:50 pm »
Couple of days ago I saw a friend I haven't seen for 10 years. She is someone that can be called an advanced spiritual person by most people. She immediately noticed that I have blockage in the chest area and hinted at a past event (maybe from past life) that's the cause of it. She warned me that it would greatly affect my health and follow me into future lives if not dealt with. I know she has the ability to help me clear it and it's very tempting to have a quick fix. 

But then I decided to take a stand this time. That blockage is a result of my wrong thinking/belief, and I am full of those. My whole self is made up of wrong thinking. She can fix one for me but what about the rest. I'd rather use it to practice my swordsmanship, like Brett with her cancer. Freedom or death. I am not at that level yet but I am starting to see this is warfare. I used to think spiritual practice is about becoming a better person, happier life, peace of mind.  I can see now that road is paved by Maya. My friend, and most practitioners, are traveling on it.  Who decides what is better and who is trying to achieve that better-ness? The same ego self. This is a dog chasing its own tail scheme, Maya's stall tactics.

I am going through the "warfare" book a second time. It starts making sense to me that the way to win is to stop fighting.  Interesting that the understanding of warfare and giving up fighting come at the same time.

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Re: Solute
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2015, 02:23:06 am »
What better way to win a war than to give up. Works for me.

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« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2015, 01:09:07 pm »
Had a more in depth talk with my friend and her husband. I am writing to sort it out.

They've reached admirable levels in their practice. They can see deeper reasons behind things going back to multiple previous lives. They can communicate to discarnate beings. They got rid of a lot of their own physical blockages and illness, their Chi is circulating well. They frequently see visions and enter exorbitant states. Synchronicity abounds in their life. They help a lot of people.

Their tenet is to clean up all habits to flow better with everything, and eventually dissolve the self and become one with everything.

Their practices include actively interacting with the world to reveal more of their habits, Chi exercises, and dedicating themselves to all sentient beings.

My diagnosis. What can be attributed to their success is their focus on cleaning up own habits, their integrated mind-body approach , their focus on helping others instead of self, and their releasing of control to a certain degree. What they don't see is that habits are end results of believes, so targeting habits is not as efficient or thorough as targeting believes. And they are using certain believes to recognize and judge habits, those hidden believes define a boundary they cannot surpass. They use teachings from sages and those in the spiritual world and what they observe as cause and effect to guide themselves, but they don't see that they are using a certain frame work to accept those teachings and their observation as true in the first place. They don't see that their framework is groundless.

It won't be easy for them to break their habitual practice, because they are constantly seeing the benefits of what they are doing. I tried to reason with them, only got reminded how blind one can be under set believes. But, they are having fun. This is not about them, this is a lesson for me. Why is their state admirable? That's what I have to answer.

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Re: Solute
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2015, 08:09:16 am »
Dear S:

There are seven billion ways to return to where you never left. What they have may be marvelous or delusion, but one thing is for sure, it's their method, their path, their exploration not yours. DO NOT try to change or convince  anyone of anything ever, ever, ever, ever... and, of course, I'm trying to convince you that's a good route to take. What a hypocritical arrogant ass I am. I apologize.

Please proceed with whatever you want, however you want and enjoy whatever you find.

It's all you anyways.

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« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2015, 09:38:02 am »
Thanks Jed, for the reminder. The ego is just scared, he wants to prove he is right, that he is not alone.
It's just all me, that's really a scary thought. For now I have a goal, that I want to strip off all the falseness. But I am sure that will eventually pass, then, what then? The ego just cannot deal with nothingness :-\

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« Reply #51 on: June 29, 2015, 04:18:54 am »
No Stripping needed, just looking through it all.

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« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2015, 08:46:14 pm »
Had a realization.

Everything, and by everything I mean everything, the stars, all objects in the universe, all living beings, all knowledge, arts, beliefs, all thoughts, the sense of self, and what ever, they are all known through perception. Their independent existence is a deduction (a baseless one, I might add), a thought, and thoughts are known by perception. Nothing exists independently outside of perception, thus
    Perceived = Perception
And whose perception is it? The perceiver. Does the perceiver have any quality/activity other than perceiving? No. Perceiver is the sum total of all perception. Thus
    Perceiver = Perception

There is nothing but perception, raw, undefined, but known, everything else is made up story. When perceived, perception and perceiver are one, this is pure awareness, this is being.

It's so ordinary, yet magical. Now, make it abiding :)

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« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2015, 05:52:26 pm »
That realization left me mostly speechless -- nothing much more can be said. Except I still have doubts, like, how does perceptions arise? There seems to be order and intelligence behind everything. Where does that come from? Is being and knowing the only quality of the perceiver/perception/perceived trio? Or creation is somewhere in there?

So, there is more to ponder. Meanwhile I just keep up the vigilance on the untruth in my life. I feel it's getting harder to fool myself. And the self is starting to tremble at the real possibility of self mutilation. I agree, seeing clearly is enough, no need to create another thing opposing the self. But it's self mutilation nonetheless.

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« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2015, 10:56:07 pm »
No perceiver, no perceived, just perceiving happening, maybe that's all. Can you find anything but perceiving happening... make up a story and that's just more perceiving happening, on and on and on....


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« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2015, 03:22:00 pm »
Dear Jed,

The hard work is to make the realization abiding. I find myself often forget about it and slip back into ignorance. Since the involuntary free fall doesn't happen to me I guess I just have to keep reminding myself what's not true.

I have no problem that I am consciousness conscious of what I am conscious of. But why is it that what's been perceived change all the time? Who is changing that? I don't want to attribute that to God or higher self. That would be taking the easy way out by creating a belief. And I don't see any reasoning can penetrate this. Perhaps this will resolve itself when non-duality becomes my actual state? Or I should focus on it as a koan?

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Re: Solute
« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2015, 12:37:45 am »
Do what you will, my only advice is stay with the question/koan and try hard to find and answer but don't expect on. If you do get an answer then firmly reject and go back to the question. The question is the answer just as the seeker is the sought.

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« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2017, 08:15:35 pm »
Dear Jed,

How can I say I am consciousness if I have no control of what appears in consciousness?
About "I AM", isn't that also a sense/perception? Why does there have to be a protagnist when thinking/perception happens?

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« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2017, 11:03:36 pm »
Find out who want's control. If you can't even know what your next thought will be, then how can any control be possible? You can't even control your thoughts. Thinking is by polarities, how can it not be? Look and see what thinking occurs within... then you might have something of value... or that you could value... as you seem to be seeking something to cling to. Further.

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« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2018, 07:39:24 pm »
Dear Jed,

I tried posting this once, probably didn't go through. Thought you might enjoy this story.

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