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Jed McKenna

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« Reply #210 on: April 27, 2017, 02:36:39 am »
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« Reply #211 on: April 28, 2017, 08:42:59 pm »
Examining the structure of hte SA I do it always seems to boil down to:
It is this.
Is it this?
Is what this?
Is there this?

Listening to incorrect on the way home to work I heard the part of Julie's SA where she says stuff like
"there's only this. THIS!"
"This is the one true blasphemy, This is the one true heresy"


I'm feeling a little stuck on this. The content is irrelevant, it always boils down to this and it.

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I was trying to enlist help here. In any case this is what is true, or in any case I find it what is taken to be true, yet at the same time only seems to be a mental partitioning function. Alternatively it refers to the context at hand.
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« Reply #212 on: April 29, 2017, 08:34:14 pm »
Have you been writing out something that is true?

Perhaps give me an example.

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« Reply #213 on: April 30, 2017, 04:43:34 pm »
Everything Iím going to type out is pigeonholed into a realm of concepts which contain meaning only in hypnotization. Meaning will appear to appear which then causes attention to become strangled into a focused point and pointed only at pieces of a whole so the entire screen is narrowed to pixels which are then labeled and strung together for reuptake of the entire process as a feedback loop.

Language breaks down into a mental pattern associated with recalled images and sounds. 

All of reality itself is within this aware space which has the potential to appear as anything and disappear (never actually becoming anything of substance). Whatís true must lie beyond all appearances perhaps even as a fact or value which provides the space for nothing to be anything.



This stuff doesn't really strike me as true so much as the best I can come up with. I've had the top story come back a billion times and as much as I piece it apart I'm not hitting the underlying belief (if there is such a thing). Difficulty locating any worthwhile question.

A couple underlying thoughts that may be of more use:
I canít do this.
Everything I think of is not true - truth can't be thought of

Are thoughts untrue?

I think I got this one  :)
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« Reply #214 on: May 01, 2017, 12:34:39 am »
Good, now get up off your ass and go out and do nothing with it. :o :o :o :P

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« Reply #215 on: May 02, 2017, 10:02:03 pm »
I noticed after finding a few beliefs that these beliefs were built specifically to fill in a certain aspect of my identity. Something vague like being ahead of the curve, smart, superior paradigm, (adjective). Its actually starting to make sense how you can become undone doing this.

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« Reply #216 on: May 04, 2017, 05:34:06 am »
Whoa.. watch out when things start making sense....

Land mines there.

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« Reply #217 on: May 04, 2017, 02:08:47 pm »
How could I know or say with any certainty that ďthis is what I am?Ē

Even if I were to find out what it is I still donít know what it IS


Knowing is inadequate, its like if i were to find what I am the last thing I could do is BE what it IS. Assuming it is.
There's something I really want to understand but i can't put words to. There's a mug on my desk and if I knew infinite information about it, that would be inadequate. I want to know what the mug is. I want to know what is is.

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« Reply #218 on: May 05, 2017, 05:27:28 am »
Define ''is'' and you will have a good start, in one sense there actually is an answer, in an other sense there isn't, and in a third sense, nothing makes sense.

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« Reply #219 on: May 05, 2017, 05:58:48 pm »
Well your response made no sense (aka the third sense) so I stuck with defining what "is" and it basically comes down to my attribution of objective reality, then i bump up against a belief of only being aware of a world inside a mind or something and off I go...

...and it comes down to the question is nothing outside of this?
I thought there was a nothing outside of a bubble. Ugh this is such a baffling matter I can't even shake my thinking stick at it, it's too dang senseless to try. And I bet after that you're twirling your evil mustache and noddin gyour head at the "senseless" thing. And I bet after that its **** further again >:(
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« Reply #220 on: May 07, 2017, 05:17:44 am »
... the odds are in your favor.. now... further.

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« Reply #221 on: May 09, 2017, 03:35:44 pm »
What is that epiphany generating sense that led me here? I've probably read the same 5 or 6 of Jed's responses hundreds of times, I don't really understand why the scent must be followed. It never goes anywhere. I recall reading one of the books where Jed was elaborating on prisons that wall out and some part of my brain went "wait what?"
Some joker goes around the village and rallies up the army until it decides to march on the enemy but they're just lead into a desert and they march until they die of thirst. Its like someone else is trapped here looking through the same eyes but he has to make the most obtuse and indirect commands for any communication to happen or any objectives to be completed.

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« Reply #222 on: May 10, 2017, 04:26:47 am »
Wanna join me in a march into the desert?

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« Reply #223 on: May 13, 2017, 04:54:28 pm »
With your latest rant I've been closely watching how I relate with people. I was sitting down and my roommate came through the door and said "hi." Reflexively I computed a tone of response with the intention of making him act more of a certain way, then let it all go. After a little while I came to notice that the same mechanism that attempts to squeeze other into a mould is doing the exact same thing internally through the way I relate to my self.

This explains the vast majority of my social behaviours and I'm grateful for the 'smart-bomb.' Its been a large roundabout answer to the question I had awhile ago which was something like "why isn't everybody like me?"


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« Reply #224 on: May 16, 2017, 05:25:46 am »
Funny isn't it, when you realize that you aren't even like you, and yet expect others to be...  :D :D :D

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