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Jed McKenna

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« Reply #255 on: August 26, 2017, 03:41:48 am »
You right about not giving a damn... so true .. as much as anything can ever be true.

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. You might be a little disappointed... I don't try to talk people out of suicide. They usually do that themselves.


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« Reply #256 on: August 27, 2017, 07:59:36 am »
That's fine if I'm talking about suicide I'm generally directing negative attention towards myself.

Anyways I had a short dream where "clearly dad mistook me for mom" and I'm surprised. I'm not sure if I'm repressing stuff or making stuff up on the spot but the rationale is that of a child.
The piece fits and can resolve numerous shady corners of " my life"  into clarity but I'm not sure. A bit glad though.

More SA and weird stuff will probably keep showing up all on its own.

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« Reply #257 on: August 27, 2017, 08:04:37 am »
Probably will, but don't give it too much attention.


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« Reply #258 on: August 29, 2017, 04:51:42 am »
I read your "about maya" rant and let that mull about in my head all day.
I've definitely noticed the fatigue you mentioned...
Since I've been writing more frequently there's just been more and more things popping up which requires my time, haven't had a free weekend in recent memory.

In Damndest, there's a part where Jed is talking about the TV show getting closer to the end of the season so the characters are made more likeable (so you'll tune in next season). Lately I've been going through a battery of sentimental bullshit, friends are moving closer to me, family keeps hitting me up and making plans, yada yada, people getting married every weekend, the cat usually bothers me when I write (I kick her out now). If I mention anything I'm doing at all people weave their stupid threads around mine (a confidential plan policy is being implemented).

In Incorrect, Julie mentions that she doesn't know someone would do it with people around without going crazy. This mechanic is likely what she was talking about (where people turn into agents (the matrix  ::))of maya).

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« Reply #259 on: August 29, 2017, 04:59:37 am »
Yes, one can make the characters more friendly and likable, however, I have come to realize that there is a more effective way.

Make them more bitchy, make the struggles more difficult and deeper, build a crescendo of almost unimaginable human drama.... and then see who takes the bate.

Well, who knows.. just a thought... one among three in the last week or so.

Love ya, Jed.
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« Reply #260 on: September 01, 2017, 05:29:46 am »
"Yes, one can make the characters more friendly and likable..."
I wasn't doing this intentionally, I don't know if its actually happening (just seems to be the trend), and I don't know if it could be done intentionally.

The metaphors about falling or drowning are a little more on point than I would have imagined. When the rabid disbelief things starts picking up the pace it seems like I can let go... this drums up an awful lot of scary thoughts
"you don't exist"
"its meaningless"
etc.,
They're very sticky thoughts.
I'm so used to seeing you write those things (fear bargaining?) that I am able to be aware of them when they arise and be aware of the fear instead of (whatever) by it. Appreciate the conditioning.

But saying this, posting, giving in to these weird little temptations is frantic swimming. Its not though (and its not that its not (it?)).

I can see this whole "must report results to Jed" process and it is not helping me one bit. If I continue to linger on this forum its slavery. Can;t unsee. It seems like something valuable to lose at the moment but I'm used to the trend and (I'll) probably be disinterested pretty soon anyway.

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« Reply #261 on: September 02, 2017, 03:57:07 am »
All good...

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #262 on: October 10, 2017, 07:44:30 am »
No questions Jed I just want to rant about "life" stuff which I think you think is boring.

Mom wants me to see grandma. Haven't seen her in long enough to knower, I don't want to contact grandma.

The context can be altered - go and meet with an old lady. It's more attractive to do at this point but around the time I consider this..
I don't hink I've ever given a **** about family affairs but I attend anyway. Why must Impress people I never see or think about? I only see and think about them when I'm there trying to impress them only so that I don't disappoint them.

There's a funeral coming up and I don't want to go. I told mom I'd go but then this happens. As far as family is concerned I want to disappear and be untreachable. I've been to a funeral before and it sucked, why do another? we can be more creative
Its the same with friends... its starting. I find myself at the table in a bar somewhere listening to the same conversations on repeat wondering when I can leave. Its just like being a kid bored at grandmas house. The only reason I stick around and try to participate is obligations..
obligations beget obligations but they are not obligatory ;D

ps: breathing getting better!

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« Reply #263 on: October 12, 2017, 06:49:12 am »
You sound a lot like me in my youth.

After attending a cremation of 26 bodies in Bali, it refused to attend another western funeral. When my father passed away, the fam asked if I was going and I said ''no''. No explanation required, they knew I that I knew what I was doing. They all attended and never, ever asked me why I didn't.

If you don't want to go to grandma's then going is going to be hurtful to all parties. Is that what you really want to do? Where is your respect for your own intuitions. ... and where is your mother's respect for you?

I know I am coming on a little strong here, especially for a dreamed matter, but making decisions for yourself is a big deal if you ever want to grow up.

Love ya, Jed.


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« Reply #264 on: October 18, 2017, 07:53:36 am »
Thank you, I appreciate the surprisingly rational questions.

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I've had this idea that all thoughts are the same thought. The one same tree, somehow viewed as infinite variety. If you were in a forest of 1 duplicate tree and you wanted to convince me why certain trees were important, unique, special, (whatever), I would find it amusing. My point is that there's no strategy or paradigm within thoughts, just wandering through the (apparent) woods.

I've sat around being highly mindful of breath and observing thoughts as they arise. I center awareness on the thoughts and they disappear and I'm brought to awareness every time, every single thought has the same effect as "I am" when centered on.
Yesternight I was doing this and noticed some kind of mental jaggedness. It's like there's a glitch, it's similar to a youtube video which lags and catches up quickly and it's subtle. Hopefully not a brain tumor. I can reproduce the glitch to some extent so I'll let you know how the investigation goes. Whisper in my ear says its just maya but I have to participate until interest fades.

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« Reply #265 on: October 24, 2017, 06:44:26 am »
My focus went to stopping thoughts... I didn't go too well. I came across an osho talk where he just says to watch. gently aware...
Okay so I watched and for a time I was able to detach from the controlling influence as well and thoughts just did their thing, eventually they stopped. It felt like inside my head blinked and that scared me back into thinking somehow  :D
The last time my head blinked like that a weird intense fiery thing happened so I'm  glad that bit was absent. I think it's interesting to note that at this point I still don't really know what I'm after
just watching
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« Reply #266 on: October 24, 2017, 10:11:08 am »
Good plan, just keep watching.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #267 on: November 11, 2017, 09:52:04 am »
I sit (or walk) and watch sometimes, it has taken the place of SA. If my feet are wiggling or tapping I watch them and they stop, if I'm cold I meet the cold where it's at by watching and then its fine, if I'm thinking a lot I watch thoughts and they do whatever. When I watch thoughts it's pretty easy for me to slip into a motivation of trying to stop thoughts so I have to watch for that. Oh sex urges too, I got a little tired of the "false promise" the urge provides so instead of going for that orgasm I just watch the feeling and it goes away in 2 seconds. It used to be a thing I would make myself try to not do and I'm a little unsure why. I viewed some thoughts trying to steer me into guilt for abandoning the chase for women so now I'm clear of that. Cool beans.

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« Reply #268 on: November 14, 2017, 01:58:07 am »
Yes, very cool...  8) 8) 8)

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #269 on: November 24, 2017, 04:54:34 pm »
Hey man! (or whoa-man)

The watching thing ran out of gas I think. Questions began to arise out of it like 'how do I know I'm watching' so instead of participating I lost interest. Much cooler in my opinion. With that one out I don't think there's any remnant of 'spiritual' pursuit left (tada!)

I've started to take charge of my own emotions. I'm always able to generate a really good mood. When I began it could be swayed by this or that, but over time I learned how to keep it free from influence (internal or external). To do that I just remain centered on this sturdy inner feeling which I sometimes attribute ferocity to. It's very close to I am (whoops I lied earlier). I'm loving everything I do, especially work . . . whcih isn't that odd considering I do it everyday but its strange how I used to dread work and feel like it was slavery (and I don't know what if anything changed).
So...dream stuff. I've been forgetting about you and this forum for multiple days and that to me is an indicator of something I want. Toodaloo