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« Reply #75 on: July 23, 2016, 11:46:11 pm »
It's fascinating that such simple questions are so exhilarating for me. Just finding out what's true for me is the kind of thing that keeps me up at night in wonder... as opposed to falling asleep and sleeping in all day to avoid.

Jed does the phrase "truth exists" mean the same thing to you as what "I am" means to others in the context of t/r?  If you don't really know I understand...

I'm curious because the "I am" thing lost its lustre to me, I don't really care to find out about myself, but the phrase "truth exists" just lights me up like a... like a bright light. I touch a few impossible things and  can't help but wonder what's real, you know? Its getting pretty difficult to even formulate an answer to "what's true" anymore because the answers that begin to form have already been nullified. I'll continue asking though.

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« Reply #76 on: July 24, 2016, 06:52:58 am »
Feelings are not felt. At best there's just a loose arrangement of random things going on but they're not be thinged by a central thing. Nothing can be touched, there's nothing to touch anything with. How did I think there was some guy holding it all together feeling all the feelings and seeing all the sights? OK, up late again, furhter...tomorrow

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« Reply #77 on: July 24, 2016, 07:27:35 am »
Yup... there's always tomorrow... or is there?

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« Reply #78 on: July 24, 2016, 10:03:00 am »
"Yup... there's always tomorrow... or is there?"
hmmmmm. Actually I'm getting slightly worried about that.

I didn't really digest that last post before it posted. I said "there's nothing to touch anything with" as if I really meant nothing (in a 2 sense).
This morning my hand wasn't where I left it when I fell asleep. It was somewhere hanging beside my hip before, if I go there to visit it now its gone. The sensation is still there, but not in a location... more like another layer. I might be making this up, it deserves more scrutiny.


edit: A distraction, I made it up
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« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2016, 09:36:18 pm »
Anything else that you have made up???

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« Reply #80 on: July 25, 2016, 01:07:49 am »
 :-\
what haven't I made up

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« Reply #81 on: July 25, 2016, 06:24:09 am »
Excellent question....

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« Reply #82 on: July 26, 2016, 12:48:24 am »
Recently I had been thinking that my concept of money had been outdated. I figured I would just print resumes, spam businesses, get job, have money, survive. The objective was basically get money, the ends justify the means. "Maybe I should take money out of the equation" I said aloud to myself, assuming that there was an I to listen.

I thought about it and I figured that I should just find things people want done that I'm also good at. The next day I got an email response from an old guy who refused my application to be a dishwasher, but instead offered me a job as a personal assistant. Cool. I'll be able to do everything on my own schedule, couldn't have found a better job. Taking money out of the equation got me to avoid identifying as a poor person.

I was playing computer games and it started to become boring. "why is this boring?" I've become an objective machine at this game. I was staring at the mini-map and objectives list more than I was playing the game. "Drop the objectives." Instantly the game was fun. Just a witch doctor shooting darts. When you're not chasing an outcome it really doesn't matter when your character dies. After a little while I thought "your objective is to play like this" and there's nothing much I can do about that but laugh. Objective brain is playing a game of its own, but at least this paragraph contains some metaphors about what I've been doing that need to be looked at.

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« Reply #83 on: July 26, 2016, 05:36:36 am »
I've been posting a lot, hope that isn't inconvenient for you...

Once again I'm back to finding where sensations occur. I think I lost an imaginary reference point or something because if I'm feeling my hand I can't find where the sensation is unless I mentally position it relative to something else, like a foot. Even then where are the feelings? I don't know where I am or where feelings occur. If I focus on a feeling there's nothing solid, its like trying to grasp air. Here is relative to there. Guess that rules out a 'where.'
When things are compared they are sorted relative to each other. If anything is observed with an observer in mind there is 2. The observer works as a fixated point of reference, if you take observer out of the equation then everything can be the center.
But if I can't actually find anything is it even worth stating there's a center?

No location, no observer, and trying to comprehend seeing raises terrible fear.

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« Reply #84 on: July 26, 2016, 06:16:36 am »
no trash that whole thing its based in belief of no observer, observer is observed, and I as the observed

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« Reply #85 on: July 27, 2016, 12:37:43 am »
Contemplate where you start and end, when you are and the other person is. Where does here end and there begin? When does now end and then begin? Do you really have a face? Have you ever seen it? When is Jed asking all these stupid questions?

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« Reply #86 on: July 29, 2016, 03:23:10 am »
When you snap out of a trance of what you're doing its not like its any better except for the relief of what you were doing

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« Reply #87 on: July 31, 2016, 06:31:29 am »
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« Reply #88 on: July 31, 2016, 06:37:19 am »
is anyone else even real?

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« Reply #89 on: July 31, 2016, 07:25:17 am »
Forget about others, don't look out, look inward. Do you even exist?

Love ya, Jed.