INVISIBLE GURU FORUM

You are really makin me mad with some of your quips about the bible. I'll get to some details below

It seems to me that waking dreaming and sleeping dreaming have some (tons of) commonality. You've been pointing out some interesting stuff that makes it more obvious that one is dreaming.

Based on the oddness you have pointed out one may decide to behave as if they are dreaming instead of behaving as if they are not dreaming. For example one might decide to just up and quite their job and carve wood into the forms of songbirds. Of course that would be a stupid thing to do if there are consequences to one's actions (there aren't) but if one is dreaming (and they are) then it makes as much sense as anything else. It certainly makes more sense to let go instead of shaking in your boots about the consequences of your actions. 

The most difficult aspect of all of this is vascillation. For example you know you are dreaming but you are still so conditioned by the society that you stay in the dead-end job and do all other manner of other stuff as if there were consequences to your actions. Then later you might honor the understanding that you dreaming and take that big chance and as a result the dream will really open up for you.

Jesus remarked on this when he said "you cannot serve two masters"

He was talking about this very phenomenon.

I receive all sorts of communications through the bible like that. I think that if one is open then they will receive communications from whatever is at hand. If one has the bible at hand, and looks deeply at it (sort of like looking at one of those pictures from the 90s that you had to stare at and then a pattern of dolphins or whatever was revealed) then a lot of really cools stuff will pop out. If all one has is a sweet potato then I'm confident that the nodules and shape and color and whatever else will come to have meaning.

The bible is a book in the dream and it has provided a lot of unexpected understanding in my dream. But there's not reason to take it very seriously if one doesn't want to. Jesus said that too when the religious officials accused him of leading his disciples through grain fields where they picked the grain, violating religious law. Jesus said to them "do you think the law is for man or is man for the law?" In that he was basically telling them that you can use the pages of the bible to clean your countertops if that is how it is of the most use to you.

But admittadly you have to search for the gems. It is like finding veins of gold. If you go looking at every word attributed to Jesus and think they all have to make sense taken together then you are gonna be pretty confused. The people who wrote those gospels (disciples of the disciples 40 - 90 years after Jesus' death) stepped on the message like an unscrupulous drug dealing mixing talcum powder with the ****.  But the messages are in there. Finding them is fun.

Anyway you aren't really makin me mad. In fact your stuff is delightful.

Is it my use of personal pronouns that makes it seem that "I" identify with self?

Having something uplifting to say to other dream characters, that they'd be eager to hear does sound like fun. I wonder if I'll ever be any good at communicating such as you suggest. I'm pretty good at entertaining but maybe not upulifing.

What keeps me most busy is looking after the interests of two of the most advanced beings on earth. So I play the role of enhancing the lives of two of them and when choosing which course to take, my understanding of what would be in their best interest guides me.  There are lots of mountain hikes and romps in snow, swimming in rivers and the sea playing in the yard, etc.. and nightly gourmet meals. What else would one do knowing that more advanced beings reside in the house?

You are misunderstanding the bible quote (made all the more difficult because I misquoted it a bit). The quote is actually more like "one cannot serve two masters".

The word "masters" is a metaphor. Jesus was speaking about the illusion of control, one cannot see through the illusion and cling to it simultaneously without becoming nauseaus.  When you see the word bible does it default you to skepticism that dogma is at play? To quote you, it seems a bit like "wrong-knowing". But I'm also maybe not the best at communicating these ideas so it might be easy to misinterpret.

Any mention to examine the idea of self is valuable. It is easy to slip into identification with self and that does happen... frequently. Yet "I" have also traveled a long road and have seen what self is not and that can't be unseen.

As always, thank you for your post.

Take care and stay well....

Love ya, Jed