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Pereira

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Here as "Summoned"
« on: September 28, 2014, 05:03:26 am »
Here i am, as asked.

The question is simple.

What Journey?

Best Regards
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Re: Here as "Summoned"
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2014, 06:42:35 am »
Dear P:

Hi there, welcome to the forum.

There is no journey from 'you' to 'I am' to 'not you' to the Mystery. If you feel you are on a journey it is only an illusion or metaphor and sometimes serves a conversational purpose. You may feel like you travel or unravel, but strangely enough, nothing is happening. Trying to make sense of it doesn't work, otherwise many folks would have 'it'.

Do you feel you are on a journey, lost, stuck or just thinking of purchasing a ticket?

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Here as "Summoned"
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2014, 07:06:23 am »
Ok. i see where i got it wrong in terms of proper use of "language".

You said, good luck on your quest, and i got it the wrong way, The question must be placed, or asked correctly then.

What Quest?

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Re: Here as "Summoned"
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2014, 10:58:04 am »
Dear P:

I appreciate your precise use of language and expression of a question. However, it's a question that could easily take up volumes in a response, primarily because I don't know what it is you are seeking. My thoughts go a little like this.

1.) Folks come here for a reason.
2.) They aren't here for my benefit, they want to get something.
3.) Unless I have at least some general information on what they already know, have done and are seeking, including what they feel might be blocking them, I'm shooting arrows off in the dark and it's highly unlikely I will be of any benefit to them.

Keep in mind the is a new communication avenue and method. All previous communication should be considered a nullity as I wish to start totally fresh with everyone. I am finding this a useful approach.

So, in light of the preceding. The more you can share about your wants, needs, goals, etc. the more I can add, or even subtract.

If you are not on some type of a 'journey' or 'quest' (not great languaging) then I can't be of service. So, having said  that, if you are, fire away.

Love ya, Jed.


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Re: Here as "Summoned"
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2014, 01:45:29 pm »
I am seeking for Truth realization/self-awareness. But the more i get close to truth the more it makes me want to forget i ever found it.

What is truth realization? I have no idea. I have no idea what truth is. I have no idea what anything is. And yet everything around me seems real. And at the same time everything seems like a memory/reliving of what had come in the past or i've read and seen on books.

It all seems like a big deja vu, since the time i wake up, to the time i go to bed.

I've never gone through what people call the "experimentation period ", LSD, marijuana, Ayahuasca or any other retreats, that supposedly people usually go through to become "realized"to the truth of what Is. To see everything that "Human" eyes can't see.

As for where i am at, at the moment i'm at home, taking care of my sick grandpa, who has alzheimer and dementia. That's how i spend my weekends.
On the week days i work for 8 hours, to get what some call "a nice salary", but is below the country average, and close to the minimum salary.

If you search your inbox dear Jim Jones aka Jed Mckenna aka the invisible guru, you can find all my sent e-mails to you, so you can get a better picture to "where i am".

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Re: Here as "Summoned"
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2014, 02:02:23 pm »
Dear P;

Like I said, nothing from the past, no going back to search emails. This is a new scene.

So, a little on your questions. First off, you can't have any idea what it's like because it's not like anything else you have experienced. That's one of the big challenges. T/R may not be for you. It's a little like climbing a mountain and never being able to see the top. It seems endless, until, hopefully, one day you find out.. my Gawd, I'm on top.

You may turn around at any time you want. It's sometimes easier to turn around that go on, and sometimes the other way around. Anyone that promises you a rose garden is not giving you the whole picture. There are parts of getting there that are.. well... sometimes just not worth it. It's is perfectly reasonable for some folks to stay in the dream. Enjoy it while you can. You will get T/R one day. Trust me, it comes to all... one  day.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Here as "Summoned"
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2014, 02:38:00 pm »
Well i do not want to turn around.

I've started the climb when i first read you're first book, or was it before? I have no idea, Have been at it for i do not know how long, the memories are a little bit messed up.

I won't quote from you or other of the "masters" or gurus I've read, seeing as most of them are dead and have no business here.

The "episode" i do not remember, but have vague memories of it happened in May this year.

I was starting my work day, i got sick to the stomach like i could go no longer, not even one minute more in that environment, i do not know if it was a gastroentrities, nervous meltdown or other, i just remember that i needed to run away, and left without warning almost nobody, bought me a train ticket to the safest place i knew, my father's house, and ended up on the psychiatric ward of the hospital.

It seems i've lost "my calmness" and "tranquility" and got lost on the way, a simple train ride that i've done countless times, and started shouting that i was God in the middle of the train station.

Got tested for all the possible drugs, alucinogenic and recreative and not a trace of it on my system.

Time stopped on that day and i cannot keep track of it any longer.  Everything since that day makes no sense, or is it that I can make no sense of what happened?

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Re: Here as "Summoned"
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2014, 03:28:24 am »
Dear P:

O.K., no sense, not make sense, all of that makes sense in a strange way. It is insanity to think the world is sane. Anyone with have a brain, or half an open brain, can look around and see that. Is that what you are seeing? That maybe you are going sane? Don't expect any support from the insane. That's for sure.


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Re: Here as "Summoned"
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2014, 04:35:31 pm »
Getting sane in a insane world? I've stopped trying to judge or evaluate the outside world. Cannot change it, why waste time? Those who try to change it are crucified, and all Heroes and Moral examples are all dead.

In this world and age only those with money can do what they want, and those without it abide by the rules of those who have it.

What I am seeing? I do not know who I am.
What is truth realization? Or Enlightnment? Or self-awareness?
Still no clue, no matter the time i spend reading about it or listening to it.(Jed Mckenna audio Books, adyashanti, Eckhart Tolle,Bhagvad gita as it is, Budha at the gas pump "interviews", so on)

I cannot possibly know what the I/eye is seeing.

Have no idea. Just mere assumptions of "knowing " people, because I've met them and interacted with them for several years. "Friends", "Family", "work" cannot even find the strength or a reason to keep doing what i do everyday. I just do it because i cannot find any other way to earn money honestly to pay my bills, but honest people never prosper, and so i feel like trapped to everything that is the outside.

It all seems the same, and yet nothing comes to mind.

What i really want? To be able, like bill gates or warren buffet to have enough money so i don't have to worry about having to wake up everyday to go to a job where im under payed and unappreciated.

No money to invest, no idea where to invest it, no money for college, so i just do the best i can, without any will to do it. What is will anyway? **** Will and **** Logic.

I shouldbe called Humoney, not Human or Pereira.

We kill ourselves daily, doing what we don't like, because we need to make money to pay for things we don't really need, and save so that when we retire we can enjoy life.

But some of us do not even reach retirement.