Author Topic: What is <real>?  (Read 532 times)

kate

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 3
What is <real>?
« on: September 20, 2014, 09:55:50 am »
not much arrogance left over here. also that there is no way of knowing what is real as it's all processed through the mind - whether inside this body or coming at this living from another mind in a body. most of the fighting is gone, except for some sort of push that appears to be part of the genetic programming of whatever this vehicle came in with that appears to be hardwired: addiction, anger, drama. like being born into as a human tilt a whirl. can't magically transform into a comfrey leaf or a sun salutation.

not sure what letting go means anymore. already cut away from most everything and everyone, then found that one still has to eat, live, work. so left the shamanic holistic work and life behind and got a job and bought a house with some land and brought in a rescue dog that wandered in out of the woods. what else to do?

the only thing ayahusaca showed me over and over was the true purpose of the human animal, and the sadness around it remains, even two years later.

now i go to work, come home and watch tv and eat. take my fat ass out into the unpathed woods with the dog and run around through spider webs. watch as the body falls apart from sort of breaking down process that is like aging on steroids. and other than the intense pain that accompanies it, don't care.

you'll ask what questions do i have.

are you the "jed" that wrote the trilogy?

what is the most efficient and sufficient method for ditching the energy parasites that burrow in when a human gives up?

what the hell is going on?

what can be done when the predominant experience is that of awareness of the cage, and no matter how many times it's explored, there is no door, no window, no way out?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2014, 10:34:02 am by kate »

Share on Facebook Share on Twitter


Jed McKenna

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15127
Re: What is <real>?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2014, 12:15:59 pm »
Welcome to the forum Kate:

How about one question, 25 words or less. What is the most important question you can think of. Focus is how you move forward.

Love ya, Jed.

Jed McKenna

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15127
Re: What is <real>?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2014, 08:45:20 pm »
Dear Kate:

Thank you for your question. I have dealt with that issue numerous times on the old forum. I'm not willing to spend much time on it here because it has nothing to do with your realization(s), H/A and T/R.

If you can't come up with questions that directly relate to yourself then you are just taking up space that could be more productively use to assist other forum members who can.

I am modelling out a laser like focus in order to move folks further. I won't tolerate distractions from my purpose and my outcome for you. Saying I did this or I did that is precisely the positionality/personality that is counter to self-realization. I have never done anything in my life, ever. There is no me to do it and nothing ever happened. Realize that about yourself and we will be making some headway. Focus, focus and more focus. Any wandering onto non-productive topics will not be tolerated.

I will do everything I can to assist you, but you have to be willing to give up your attachment to everything in order to succeed. The biggest attachment at the moment is the need to be right.

You will eventually realize that you have failed to ever do anything at all. Nowhere to go, nothing to do and no one to be. Is that what you want? I suggest you think long and hard about it. It is not to be taken lightly and my suggestion is you might be wise to turn and run for the exit.

NO DIVERSION, NO WAFFLING, NO RE-DIRECTING FOCUS VIA INANE QUESTIONS. THIS WILL COST YOU THE LIFE YOU HAVE BEEN PRETENDING TO LIVE. It's simple, but certainly not easy by any standard. Lose your stories and gain the universe. I expect a lot and am willing to give a lot.

Are you in or out? Up to you and either choice is perfect and has already been made, not by you but for you.

Love ya, Jed.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2014, 10:25:02 pm by Jed McKenna »

Jed McKenna

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15127
Re: What is <real>?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2014, 09:55:33 am »
Dear Kate:

Wow, I do appreciate you gutsy sharing. Life's a bit of a **** when it's all in friggin pain. Got it, understood. So, WTF, it's not supposed to be like this, is it? But, the challenge is, your experience is specifically like this.

I thank whomever is in charge that I have been pain free during my life, other than the odd broken heart which I seem to bounce back pretty quickly.

Of course I can make up a dozen story about the meaning, the karma, the unforgiven pain, the pain body itself, all of it's bull tweedy, completely. The reality is you have a body and that body is in pain. NOT YOU. Find the difference. There is opportunity in everything and I would propose the opportunity here is find out who has the pain.

Love ya,

Jed McKenna

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15127
Re: What is <real>?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2014, 12:15:14 pm »
No way out... who was in?

Love ya, Jed.

Jed McKenna

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15127
Re: What is <real>?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2014, 12:44:48 pm »
Detaching is quite probably impossible as you say, what about welcoming... now that you might have some control over.

Love ya,  Jed.

Jed McKenna

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15127
Re: What is <real>?
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2014, 02:04:51 am »
Dear Kate:

In my experience, much of what does to diminish pain usually increases it. I don't think we have discussed it, but have you heard of Byron Katie and what she calls 'the Work'?

Love ya, Jed.

Jed McKenna

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15127
Re: What is <real>?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2014, 12:21:48 pm »
Good, refresh. She is  good at separating pain and suffering. Has about 50 free audio downloads that are seminars. I highly recommend them.

Love ya, Jed.