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Jed McKenna

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Got it and thank you for sharing. If you have a better explanation or have experienced something profound that might explain things, please share. And, I don't say that sarcastically. I am always searching for better explanations.

Just a word of warning. Once you begin to explain such matters you inevitably slip into stories, metaphors and ''Well... it's a little like this'' stuff, or sometimes, ''It's not at all like this''.

All words are b.s. because they are removed from and only talk ''about'' some event. They are NOT that event. Slippage occurs and sometimes much slippage occurs. Just the way it goes.

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Well, I have no idea about how this creation started...But I would like to share the point of view of some sages:

Nisargadatta, in his earlier years, used to say that this manifest universe was god's lila, meant for entertainment only... In his latter years, though, he changed his opinion on the matter and said that Ishwara(god) would never create a cruel world like this, and that the universe was just the result of the interaction between the four elements.

Buddha said that there's no creator of this universe, that it happens spontaneously. But god, being himself deluded, believes himself to be the almight creator, because he has no memory of what he was before being born as god, and thus thinks himself to be an all powerful and uncaused entity. Buddha then proceeds to explain that he himself was god in one of his previous lifes, and that before being born as god, he lived on a plane even higher than that of god(deva of infinite light). Buddha explains that after a deva of infinite light falls down from his plane of existence into the plane of god, this newborn god finds himself lonely and then wishes for the existence of new souls.

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Thanks for sharing. If you need stories go with Nis. His experiences parallel mine in many ways. IMHO Buddha's words have gone through way to many iterations and interpretations.

Find out for yourself and then you can speak from author-ity.

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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #153 on: August 02, 2018, 03:50:26 am »
“Human life must be some kind of mistake. The truth of this will be sufficiently obvious if we only remember that man is a compound of needs and necessities hard to satisfy; and that even when they are satisfied, all he obtains is a state of painlessness, where nothing remains to him but abandonment to boredom. This is direct proof that existence has no
real value in itself; for what is boredom but the feeling of the emptiness of life? If life—the craving for which is the very essence of our being—were possessed of any positive intrinsic value, there would be no such thing as boredom at all: mere existence would satisfy us in itself, and we should want for nothing.”
― Arthur Schopenhauer, Studies in Pessimism: The Essays
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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #154 on: August 02, 2018, 05:16:09 am »
That's one man's point of view. Not my experience. I don't know what ''human life'' is.

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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #155 on: August 05, 2018, 12:11:26 pm »
I can't take this shitty life anymore Jed. this time I'll do it; this time I'll summon enough courage to end it all

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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #156 on: August 05, 2018, 01:17:52 pm »
Whatever you do, do it with all the heart, soul and attention you can.

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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #157 on: August 30, 2018, 01:26:45 am »
Is there such a thing as a wasted life?
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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #158 on: August 31, 2018, 12:33:45 am »
You are asking the wrong question. Find out if there is such a thing as a 'life'.

 ??? ??? ??? ::) ;D ;D

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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #159 on: August 31, 2018, 01:02:28 am »
So, Jed, I finally managed to discover the "secret" of happiness. Not sure if I'm able to put it into paper, but these words from Nisargadatta Maharaj sums things up pretty well:

"But why talk of happiness at all? You do not think of happiness except
when you are unhappy. A man who says: 'Now I am happy', is between two sorrows
-- past and future. This happiness is mere excitement caused by relief from pain. "

The key is on "A man who says: 'Now I am happy', is between two sorrows
-- past and future.".

This statement is not just negativistic talk about the impermanence of all mental states, as I used to think it was. That's not the real meaning of what Nis wanted to convey there. Instead, there's something deeper to it.

How can I explain it? A person who says "I'm happy now" only says such thing because inside her the memory of suffering still exists; such person is still bound by the duality of happiness and suffering, otherwise there would be no need to say "I'm happy".

My search for happiness during all this time only harmed me, really. Because the act of searching for something implies you do not have it! So **** simple.


Now you just told me that there's no such thing as a life. At first glance this statement seems to be nothing more than second rate, low intelectual effort, copycat, neo-advaita mumbo jumbo. For the untrained eye, yes, it's just mumbo jumbo and nothing more. First time you told me this I just got mad. But now I know that behind the seemingly simplicity of what you just said, an invaluable treasure may be hidden, but I'm just not able to see it yet.

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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #160 on: August 31, 2018, 03:06:40 am »
Keep looking...  ::) ::) ::) :P

Glad you are realizing such wondrous things for yourself.

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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #161 on: September 01, 2018, 02:07:05 am »
Beautiful poem from the Buddha:

It's not to be reached by traveling,
   the end of the cosmos —
      regardless.
And it's not without reaching
   the end of the cosmos
   that there is release
   from suffering & stress.

So, truly, the wise one,
   an expert with regard to the cosmos,
   a knower of the end of the cosmos,
   having fulfilled the holy life,
      calmed,
   knowing the cosmos' end,
      does not long for this cosmos
         or any other.

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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #162 on: September 01, 2018, 06:51:21 am »
Why to Buddhist never vacuum the corners of a house or temple.

Because they don't have any attachments.

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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #163 on: September 06, 2018, 05:55:48 am »
So, I recently joined college and I feel like such institution is but a great hindrance in the path of realization. Before joining I thought my life was going to become great after entering it, but now I see it hasn't changed much and I'm just spending too much time thinking about different levels of graduation, my future, in which area am I going to get masters in and bla bla bla. Seems like academia is another big trap designed by maya to distract people. It even has plenty of hierarchy levels so that people can compare their own levels of achievement with other people and feel superior/validated, or become excited about surpassing other people's level of gradutation. It's just another form of misery producing rat race, like many other races that can be found in inumerous sectors of society.

I'm thinking about doing only what is necessary to get good grades while trying to keep academia out of my head the most I can. Unfortunately I'm still not free enough to just drop out and be content with nothing and with not being recognized and respected. I have experienced some degrees of desirelesness twice in my life and those periods were filled with the most intense joy I had ever experienced. If I could I would become desireless right now("wantless" would be a better term to use though) but unfortunately I'm still a slave of the dictator Maya and I still need to work as a slave on her human farm of validation for some more time.

So, whats your advice for me? Just throw some wise and liberating words here for me to digest

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Re: When you say T/R is a kind of cellular knowing...
« Reply #164 on: September 06, 2018, 06:23:21 am »
Gosh golly... how am I to know what is best for you? What would you tell you if you were me. You know the wise thing to do, listen to that wisdom.

Love ya, Jed.