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Title: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on September 18, 2016, 10:14:43 am
Hey Jed,

I did not want to come back here, oh no. But I am so curious! It feels right. And it feels too true. Oh no. What should I do?

 :P

take care, big hug, how are you?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on September 18, 2016, 10:26:40 am
I am trying to write some truth here. A lot of the fears we have are from fitting into standards from which we do not want to escape because if we would we would realise that we are indeed nothing? If we would remove ourselves from the standards of society, of made up constructs we would not have a reference point and we would be in open space?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 18, 2016, 12:32:46 pm
Please speak only in the first person... as a service to yourself and others who might read your post.

This is, in my hallucination, quite important. If you don't own your opinions and thoughts, who does?

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on September 19, 2016, 05:04:54 am
 I am sorry.  I feel restricted by myself.which is so familiar to me but I am tired of old habits and thoughts.  I would like to achieve HA.I would appreciate it if you could help me with this
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 19, 2016, 09:32:40 am
I might be a long process for you. Tell me why you want H/A. What do you think it will give you?

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on September 19, 2016, 10:02:31 am
Why do you think it would be?

More freedom.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 19, 2016, 10:46:59 am
What exactly is keeping you from being free in this very moment.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on September 19, 2016, 01:54:18 pm
I might lose my boyfriend. I might lose my place at university. I might lose my friends. I might lose my beauty. Pretty attached hm?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on September 19, 2016, 02:00:27 pm
You know what? I might lose it but I probably will not lose it. H/A is deciding for yourself, and that feels like freedom to me
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 19, 2016, 10:39:56 pm
I'm pretty sure you are going  to end up an old, wrinkled crone. Then what? How will you feel then about your life, about what you have done, pursued, etc.?

But wait, there is a glitch, you might die in five minutes, that what?

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on September 20, 2016, 02:11:26 am
I might die in 5 minutes, I am really good in not thinking about that...  ::)

Then I would still drink my coffee now, look outside the window, see the sunshine and hope there will be an afterlife. You will tell me that there is none but I still want to believe what I believe. I want H/A because I am afraid of T/R. I am afraid that I might not exist but I want to. Thank you
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on September 20, 2016, 02:13:00 am
Maybe this is not the right forum for me  ::)

Sure I will end up wrinkled... Audrey Hepburn was beautiful when wrinkled.

If I would die in 5 minutes I would still be here where my man is
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on September 20, 2016, 02:15:14 am
I saw a video by this guy named Benjamin Smythe who said: if it does not matter that we show off, if it is all nonsensical vanity, we might just all show off and have fun with it
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on September 20, 2016, 02:22:22 am
I am really afraid of not following anything. It feels like a big openness of nothing and nothing to hold on to
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 20, 2016, 04:22:03 am
...that pretty much  describes it.

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on January 19, 2017, 01:14:06 pm
Hello. I am back because I want to reach H/A. To be honest because I am tired of drama and tired of being attached to opinions and fears. May you assist? Regards, Kt
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on January 19, 2017, 01:14:51 pm
I write sentences, reread them and feel like a fraud
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on January 21, 2017, 02:08:20 am
Feeling like a fraud is just a stage you are going through. Later on you will realize that you are a fraud. Then less pretense to be original and truthful will arise, you will be freer and life will run much smoother. Trying is lying.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on January 21, 2017, 05:25:47 am
ok. oh no. H/A does not mean love, happiness + joy? it means going further? that scares 'me', 'mememe'. i'm not even a woman. But I can play with it right? Being whatever role to believe in?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on January 22, 2017, 10:07:20 am
I have no interest and I don't want to have any in the sense that nothing counts expect this peace. The way to go?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on January 24, 2017, 01:58:14 am
Wanting and not wanting set up desires and expectations which keep you from being with what is, as it is. It also attaches more importances...

There is not way to go and no where to go.. you are already there but are covering that up with desire, expectation, attachments and aversions... just aware and don't try to change or expect anything in particular.

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on January 24, 2017, 03:25:39 pm
 Hey, sounds interesting.it feels peaceful to not do anything.  There is an obsession with going somewhere, though A longing to stay.  Something is afraid of not controlling, and nothing wants to control .  It feels helpful to not speak of 'me',  to see that it is a story. There is a lot of memory attached to the thought of me.it feels like going back to say me.The I thought seems to be a habit, but the truth is in the opposite direction
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 01, 2017, 12:24:03 pm
 ??? I don't know what to say.  I want to put the covers over my head again.  It feels like the weirdest dream I have ever been in.  I had a release of a lot of emotional energy right now, but actually I don't want to go.so I don't know what I am doing here.  Still, I think I would rather go for HA  because if life goes on like that, I might have to go into psychiatry before I reach or when I reach TR.   can you help me with going for HA?  As I understand it, HA means making the character sane or as safe as it can be… So that the body will not get killed by realizing TR or being killed by whatever ripples of energy in reality then happen ... if you know what I mean.. I just had the  realization that my husband will stay in my life, no matter what happens.and then he called me and told me he will stay in my life no matter what happens.and all of that felt incredibly acted and staged that I felt like a fake talking to him at all.  Is it really possible for me to reach HA  for going insane? Best wishes
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 02, 2017, 01:01:41 am
You sound like you might qualify for the Navigator Series. If you are deadly serious about this send and email to cambodianashram@gmail.com. Please leave blank and just put ''waiting list'' in the subject header. I will get back to you.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 04, 2017, 03:50:20 am
It is ugly, and freeing. Am I sure I want to go? If the 'I' is not real anyway, why bother? Should I just enjoy the 'I' as long as it is here? Will happen anyway... thanks for making the nav series possible for me, ill get back to you as soon as my gut says yes.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 04, 2017, 05:29:42 am
If you are enjoying just living from the I, me, my, mine perspective you would be nut's to go on with this journey. Just enjoy life.

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. The fact that you are here indicates, at least to me, that you are not so satisfied.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 04, 2017, 06:41:12 am
Apparently playing feels good .. I don't know where I am .. I think of someone and then I meet them 2 minutes later .. does it make sense that I or consciousness is focusing more on certain people, are these the people one should meet? I feel often like I have to say goodbye to people in my life or the attachment to them . And yes - I want more than the I thought apparently ... I feel like : zwei Seelen wohnen ach in meiner Brust .. (goethe)...i am a Little nuts ...further?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 04, 2017, 06:44:53 am
I wanted to call my brother, now he is sitting over there, at least it looks like him ... it cannot be though... ...consciousness likes to play me thinks
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 04, 2017, 08:46:39 am
No one owns me and I don't own anything or anyone! But as soon as I feel the relief in that , the ego tries to attach to something again ...!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 04, 2017, 03:40:37 pm
Excuse my distraction from the real thing .. I guess I'll just wait .. :-\ ::) 8)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 05, 2017, 02:04:45 am
In a world where time is only an illusion, patience is the key.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 06, 2017, 11:57:17 am
Reality seems sometimes so 'in your face', it is so obviously 3D and I do not know how to see this all as just an Illusion. But I guess the mind cannot explain or conceive anything other than its death? I feel like there is something that wants to break free (from your lies, your so self satisfied). I am angry at my ego, but even more angry and also avoding other People who seem to be less in the flow than I am if that makes sense. I get Nausea when in the presence of certain People. Sometimes even myself. Thanks! <3
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 06, 2017, 12:00:08 pm
Rather than love, fame, whatever, give me truth. I say! Now... but later I might not want that so much.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 07, 2017, 05:13:29 am
Wanting to realize your True Nature is something you never regret... well, along the journey you might, (this is why I am so big on H/A)... but at the end of it  (there is no end, but that's the best I can come up with) you will want for nothing. Literally, figuratively and every other way... imaginable or unimaginable.

Love ya, Jed.

Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 07, 2017, 06:06:59 am
Hmmm... Or as the Bavarian would say: ja mai ...I don't know !
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 07, 2017, 06:11:45 am
I could do anything right now ...I could travel , sit in a pub in Dublin , walk towards the jakobsweg or whatever , but why this?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 07, 2017, 06:12:12 am
Another brick in the wall ...
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 08, 2017, 03:04:49 am
You are not the brick, you are the wall. ALL WALLS, and Mexico if gonna pay!

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 08, 2017, 04:15:04 am
Sometimes there are glimpses of 'wow, oh my God, there is ... nothing. It is not definable. Oh my God... swoooosh...........' and then my mind/I come in and say: 'No no no no, I'd rather have all the suffering in the world, all the pain, I do not care! Everything is better but losing control! I will stick to my ego, I am my ego, awesome. I am free and at the same time I can stick to my ego'. Funny game! Or not, help!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 08, 2017, 04:20:58 am
What do you mean with 'Mexico if you gonna pay?'

I do not want to leave but I am not. I want to cry, scream, laugh, and I see that all people are hiding. At least I believe I do. Everyone is hiding, this is a weird place  ??? 8) >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 08, 2017, 04:21:30 am
I am stupid, I know nothing
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 08, 2017, 04:25:20 am
Okay... the question is what do I want. In terms of truth but also in terms of everything. Act, dance, sing, do sports ... what holds me back from anything? Why do I believe that what everyone wants is what I want? Fear!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 08, 2017, 04:26:33 am
Fear fear fear fear fear fear fear, damnit. This fear fear fear, is the blockage and entrance to reality, maybe. Dont want to go there
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 08, 2017, 04:26:58 am
I am angry!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 08, 2017, 04:44:14 am
Everyone is in Trance
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 08, 2017, 06:16:22 am
Well.... I'm pretty much in agreement with the ''everyone is in a trance.'' part.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 08, 2017, 08:00:39 am
I just want to be ... happy ? 8) i want to have a beautiful Dream as Long as it lasts
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 08, 2017, 04:15:53 pm
I need to rest and to avoid certain people , it tires me to be around some, and around drama , it tires me that my thoughts are even attached to certain people , why? How do I let them go?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 09, 2017, 11:37:10 am
Okay ... I know ... or think I know , thank you and talk soon
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 10, 2017, 03:04:09 am
I deleted my thoughts about my life because there is nothing to say but wait
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 10, 2017, 03:08:32 am
I am in university and the lines from Joyce's Ulysees are telling me the truth. I am telling me the truth, truth is telling me the truth, I need some H/A to not lose my mind too quickly
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 10, 2017, 04:24:27 am
Good. Now, how are you going to get it?

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 10, 2017, 04:30:54 am
Well, I thought about what a healthy human being would be , thought about someone who is a healthy one in my opinion , met this person 'accidentally' , talked and - found out this person might be H/A but it has to be about my experience , not this persons experience - also I embarrassed myself in front of the healthy one - either I am not as healthy or whatever ... help confusion
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 10, 2017, 04:35:51 am
Of course we talked about consciousness, reality, philosophy , life is but a dream merrily merrily ...
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 10, 2017, 04:36:08 am
Try this... observe that average adult, even TV or movies can help. You know the forty year old body containing the 8 year old kid. Then try doing the opposite. Give it a shot.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 10, 2017, 06:04:50 am
😌 okay! Feel freer already , nothing matters?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 10, 2017, 11:12:33 am
And I forgot to say : thank you , from my heart whatever that is
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 10, 2017, 12:17:26 pm
Damn how do I do the opposite? Without stepping on toes?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 10, 2017, 10:17:14 pm
You have never, ever stepped on someones toes. You only step on their stories as to how things should be. That's their problem and their opportunity to learn. NOYB (none of your business).

Love ya,  Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 11, 2017, 02:10:53 am
It is so odd...  ??? Thank you, talk later, thank you
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 11, 2017, 02:19:53 am
It is not odd at all... letting someone be is a Little hard for 'me' because I might lose my reference Point. When I let them be, I see that they are not Special for 'me', they are as everyone, doing their Thing, no Special meaning for me, just a Thing moving around, being.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 11, 2017, 03:37:00 am
Damn! My life is now now now now ... why am I not doing what I want?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 11, 2017, 03:45:36 am
I want to be ...but i am , i am , am I? There is nothing to become , but everything to lose, things come and go and will go forever , poetry and silly poetry , fear but not really , rather : tension and the belief : I am wrong , there is something wrong with me , especially when just happy with this ,
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 11, 2017, 04:09:16 am
O.K.  ;D

What's next... or... is there a ''next''?

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 11, 2017, 04:27:05 am
No, not really. Just annoyance, A NNNOOOY A N CE.

hm! thank youfor your Kind words  :)

talk soon in this theatre
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 11, 2017, 04:33:17 am
There is no next... nothing. Blabla. It does not make any sense. What am I doing here? Breath breathing, Hands writing, eyes seeing... ears Hearing. It is boring, so I made up some Tension.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 11, 2017, 04:35:42 am
I'll try the 'why do you want me to do what you want me to do' (in your other thread)  - Thing. Thanks!!!! Awesome  ::)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 11, 2017, 05:09:30 am
Kant's saying of doing only what you wish to become a rule in Society Comes to mind. Actually: I wish for nothing, I wish no other Person to wish for something from me. I just want to fly along this weird place
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 12, 2017, 05:12:40 am
Wishing is a complete waste of illusory time in this dream unless you are wishing for everything to be as it is, where it is and when it is and as it is... but then, it's not wishing of course, it's just being.

You only wish in a kind of civil war against what is.. it's a rather silly waste of energy.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 12, 2017, 05:39:30 am
How arrogant of me . Wishing ...
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 12, 2017, 06:02:51 am
I do not want to manipulate anything and I do not think I can ... just want to stay in control ... well , I will try to be happy while losing control
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 12, 2017, 06:27:23 am
If I want something , why do I want it ?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 12, 2017, 12:18:59 pm
I cannot imagine how big it is. But becoming a healthy one seems the right way to go  ::) :) Let's see how this turns out
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 12, 2017, 12:29:29 pm
Playing with my mind: if I am afraid to lose something, then what did this something give me? What does it give me? What will I lose if it goes? If it gave me ... , how can I give this ... to myself? Did not mean to copy but probably 'I' did unintentionally, from your other thread. Sorry! And thank you!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 12, 2017, 09:34:08 pm
Keep in mind that pretty much all questions that start with ''why'' are seeking only to attach blame, judgement or criticism.. often of one's self.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 13, 2017, 01:04:21 am
There is feeling of peace.  feeling that everything is fine, but then I want to attach to my stories: the feeling of hope!!! I think I'm making my way to HA. Thank you ;  I am depressed and happy at the same time ;  no… More happy than sad ;  maybe becoming an adult means being happy, having hope, creating a good life, and then .. who knows  ? Not me , thank you  ::)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 13, 2017, 04:09:13 am
Keep at it.. and remember, your emotions always lie because they are just stories about sensory input. Stories are lies.. always.

Some stories are more fun than others.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 13, 2017, 04:35:29 am
The identity my mind comes up with now - which mirrors in reality? Is not the identity that I want right now -- absolutely not, why would i chose to be a victim ? Ah , the why again ...;)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 13, 2017, 05:24:06 am
Yes, I agree. You are a victim, but only of your own mind.

Being a victim is just a story you are running ... it's not much fun, why not run another story... they are all b.s. anyways. Choose one that is more hm.... entertaining.  :P :P :P

Spend some time as conquer of the known universe. Then be the savior of all humanity, past present and future. Of course these are complete bull but no more so than your victim story. If you are going to waste time in stories, for heaven's sake have a little fun.   

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 13, 2017, 12:15:02 pm
Nothin I do makes a difference ! It is not explainable but : help ! I'll write later , thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 13, 2017, 12:19:31 pm
There was a small recognition : oh, that is what's going on .. then I came back and the recognition went ... for a small moment there was: ah ... move on moving on .. there seems to be love , for others , grace , maybe that is only another story
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 13, 2017, 06:49:57 pm
Sorry for all the stupid nonsense I write on this forum;  some things just seem to work out for 'me';  even when before everything looked bad, suddenly something changes, and then there is this door  and I think to myself :  it will happen the way I want it;  A couple of minutes later it does happen that way ... another story and apparently I am only seeking approval right now, sorry and thank you Jed 🙏🏻
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 14, 2017, 02:46:58 am
Being feels natural, there is this sense of a 'small story' as what I want: for example peace, being peaceful with my surroundings and People, being okay, being at home within my Body... but this is the search right? I 'is' always searching, running in circles  :-\ I do not find it funny right now,I will run a beautiful Story in my head, or in my life, as much as I can but it will never be satisfying, I assume. Thank you
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 14, 2017, 02:50:12 am
Stories are very seldom satisfying.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 14, 2017, 03:07:27 am
When the mind goes into emotions, it is really sometimes like a movie ... but there is also this Kind of 'wave'-Feeling and waking up - Moment to coming out of another Story (even if I do not get out of it entirely) --> it is like a short storm, and then quiet. Then storm, then quiet, I do not know. Okay... further. Further further... BUt I will enjoy myself on the way, seems intelligent
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 14, 2017, 04:31:38 am
Most of the energy goes into 'I do not deserve ...', thus explaining, + mentioning others because i do not deserve to be liked (or to like for that matter). I'll leave that Story behind and see what happens, freeing up some energy here, ... thank you
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 14, 2017, 06:34:51 am
I guess I'll play the game of 'I know something you don't know but actually you do know' for a while --> at least it seems to be fun to be a little cheeky
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 14, 2017, 09:18:20 am
I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE this weird dream of 5d8h work, a Partner, a child and a couple of couple friends. No! No no no no no. Help!  ???
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 14, 2017, 09:27:11 am
Drama Queen... I do not have to live that. Thank you!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 14, 2017, 10:01:12 am
Okay, back to Basics. There is nothing I can do anyways, so I'll just flow with it. Fear! Big time... big big big time but then that is only a word play
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 16, 2017, 06:12:36 am
 :P :P :P
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 16, 2017, 09:49:40 am
It's more fun when there is none...cannot hold on , it hurts to hold on! Or is stressful ... my poor body , stressed from drama ... I want an easy ride , at least my body wants it
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 16, 2017, 10:38:21 am
The ride is much easier  when you stop thrashing that body.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 16, 2017, 11:12:24 am
I see
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 17, 2017, 05:27:43 am
 I will take the garbage out. When I look in the mirror, I see a facade .  Wrong clothes, wrong personality, I suppose I will just let it go and compost the things that surround me or my ego  which are wrong ;  curiius where that might take me ⛵️
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 17, 2017, 05:35:18 am
Thank you , thank me for this forum -- wow my ego is smart ; well ... however long it takes I suppose
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 17, 2017, 09:54:08 am
I got this weird sensation of : oh, there is only me ... me in the sense of I created all tho. Now I'm back to ego but that truth would ruin my mind anyhow or the little me . That truth would be too paradoxical and weird to be true
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 17, 2017, 09:54:59 am
I've never felt this lonely or this big in this life
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 17, 2017, 10:04:45 am
just a thought appearing in a thought, appearing in a thought... words words words. I'm sorry. But can this me being really only this, and this one, be true? -ish?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 18, 2017, 12:42:08 am
Absoluntely yes! AND, quite clearly not!

Got it? Good,

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 18, 2017, 03:31:28 am
I did all this? This whole emotional baggage within this consciousness? At least of this person-hood. Just read a passage in Warfare about the demon of a woman's (forgot her name ::)) father in her head. I have a demon too. Guess, I have to go as deep as possible into the emotion of it. No, you said, I have to let it go. Maybe going into it and letting it go are the same? Thank you, Jed of my creation .. (in my humble maybe not truth-ish attempt to make sense of this)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 18, 2017, 03:57:48 am
 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 18, 2017, 04:36:28 am
I am talking to myself ort it feels like I am giving myself signs to wake up
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 18, 2017, 04:37:19 am
Give me more perfume , high heels and make up  :o
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 18, 2017, 04:51:26 am
 ??? ??? ??? :P :P :P o.k.  :-* :-* :-*

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 18, 2017, 05:25:30 am
Still ther is the small me, fear and playing small.  So I thought I pump it up a little in the opposite direction until the ego explodes  ??? :o
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 18, 2017, 06:13:17 am
There is the sense of that everyone is awake but me and something wonders why no one notices but at the same time everyone is awake, so it is like a paradox, hide and seek
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 18, 2017, 06:19:13 am
Lots of tears
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 18, 2017, 06:25:14 am
Touching on liberation but only touching
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 18, 2017, 08:29:30 am
...further...

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 19, 2017, 01:26:11 am
It does anyway ... move , at least here it feels like life is a movement to further , just the noticing starts ; further , thank you ; Jed
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 19, 2017, 03:35:51 am
 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 20, 2017, 04:25:52 am
This is not funny for me. Knowing that there is only me, that is a Little ... well. Hard to Digest. I guess I will just purify the Body, any trash feels bad, and there is a lot of pressure on the chest. Singing helps. Thanks!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 20, 2017, 04:41:57 am
Do what thou wilt.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 20, 2017, 05:01:58 am
Never did anything else monsieur
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 20, 2017, 10:46:27 am
I will create my own small tv series and see how much of a director I can make myself into .. hm ... I am so terrified !
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 21, 2017, 04:40:44 am
I felt lonely ; and made up things and people to talk to? Is this it? Maybe I don't know what I did and will reveal myself to myself more and more; maybe I am just confused ? Who am I?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 21, 2017, 06:14:36 am
No, no, no... you are not a ''who'' you are (if anything) a what... ''what am I''. Ask and throw out EVERY answer you receive because that won't be it.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 21, 2017, 03:09:20 pm
Doing that nothing happens   ??? I don't know ... I feel very strongly identified right now
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 22, 2017, 07:19:56 am
There is identification with opinions other might have about me. I assume that they really do function as a sort of mirror to show me where there are beliefs inside myself. Not in the way they act but in my perception of them. It is like I do have imprints that show up again and again. and I feel very nauseous at the moment, close to tears and fear comes up again and again. I breathe a lot.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 22, 2017, 08:04:53 am
So what? Really, soooo what?

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 23, 2017, 02:25:25 am
This might tie in with your answer of so what BUT how do I go about a toxic and shaming person in my closest environment ? My body might at a point die of that
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 24, 2017, 05:04:13 am
Well, you can always leave... BUT, I'm gonna bet you will say, ''Oh, I can't do that''. And then I will say, ''Ýes, you can, but you won't''.  We'll probably go back and forth with various reasons and blah, blah... then I will say, ''Just stay there and die''. Because with the excuses you  are going to feed me you might as well be dead... zombie movies are popular for a reason.

BUT, that all is just my b.s., go ahead and make up your own, but PLEEEAAASE make it interesting.

Love ya, Jed.

If it feels like  I am picking at your scab I am, because I know there is beautiful baby pink new skin under it.

Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 24, 2017, 06:08:03 am
Thank you 🙏🏻 ; For the answer is on the point ...
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 24, 2017, 10:03:53 am
I am writing this down in order to not lose it but life is Change so I might as well lose it again  ::) Confusion --> conclusion / Change. It feels like this here. Simpleness moving .. 'I' did not know that something as simple as letting go on the inside can have tremendous effects on my Body, heart, mind.. I assume a shift on the inside is on the outside. Or the inside is the outside. Well!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 27, 2017, 05:14:23 am
Horrible -- to find out and not being able to stop ! I am pushed by : myself ! How mean and true
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 30, 2017, 01:15:39 am
Find out where inside ends and outside begins, or where here ends and there begins or when now ends and then begins, or, or, or... make something up, anything will do. Get creative.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 30, 2017, 12:55:19 pm
Well nothing nothing nothing nothing.. matters and I ... will have to go further and will ... help this is unusual and kind of : Simple
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 31, 2017, 04:31:51 am
Hidden in plane view...

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on May 31, 2017, 09:38:06 am
Of course ... or off course? Further and always further but ... says the mind ; I will just paddle along i guess
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 01, 2017, 12:32:40 am
May all your rapids be small....  ;) :o :P :P :P

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 01, 2017, 04:45:32 am
Thank you ! They might ... or not ... done is still far away or hidden in plain view
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 02, 2017, 08:05:03 am
Closer than you next breath, next heartbeat, or perhaps next belch.

Love ya, Jed

Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 03, 2017, 09:29:38 am
Without ego it works pretty good but WITH EGO : distraction / distruction
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 03, 2017, 12:36:46 pm
O.K. what's next?

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 03, 2017, 03:43:10 pm
Patience .. waiting for things to arise and in the mean time ; relaxing and enjoying life
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 04, 2017, 02:08:40 am
Excellent plan...

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 04, 2017, 04:03:51 am
Nothing Needs to be done or said, perfect Timing perfect place... hm  :o hm..
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 04, 2017, 04:25:04 am
I find myself more and more immune - and bored by emotional Manipulation. The way to go seems to be keeping the Body clean, being awake, trusting in this
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 04, 2017, 06:40:19 am
 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 05, 2017, 10:34:18 am
And now ... life goes on and nothing is missing but thoughts create stories of : something is missing or WILL miss in the so called future
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 06, 2017, 02:36:28 am
Wait and see....
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 11, 2017, 02:39:19 am
There is this Drama appearing again and again... I want a smoothe relationship. You say the only way out is through but I do not want to get out, I want less Drama in it  ??? Being a good character in someone else's dream? Am I toxic or is it the other Person?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 13, 2017, 08:17:19 am
So... you want to life yourself up by pulling on your feet.  ??? ??? ???

Good luck with that.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 14, 2017, 12:21:11 pm
What is my responsibility if I hurt someone or destroyed their lives? Coping with the guilt? Is life moving me towards making it better? The responsibility question comes up again and again. I want balance, I want to make it right
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 14, 2017, 02:05:26 pm
You are wasting your time. Grow up! NOW! There is no other to hurt or destroy. You just aren't that powerful. Their own stories do all the hurting and destroying. Let them be.

Stop wasting you life away with such silliness.. STOP NOW!

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 15, 2017, 02:55:47 am
 ::)That's a tough one! Paradigm shifting already  :o
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 15, 2017, 10:35:27 am
Sheesh... glad someone is listening to me.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 18, 2017, 04:01:40 am
What am I avoiding ? The fact that I am constantly controlling a relationship without the need to even controll it BECAUSE IT APPARANTLY is here .. living in an imaginary future fighting windmills ; avoiding that i do not know what i want other than this happy Disney relationship! Avoiding the fact that I do not want to lose it and controlling nothing ness in order to do so ; sounds exhausting
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 18, 2017, 09:56:12 am
Yup, tired me just reading it.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 19, 2017, 11:01:27 am
Well... when something seems to be terribly terrible it dissolves within days, hours or minutes within this experience. Then it Pops up again but the time of discomfort is extremely bad and drains all the energy. When I feel on solid ground again - expecially in my relationship (the ex was not intended ;)) - there is a sense of relief. When in discomfort the I screams: give me comfort please! Like a drug ... at the same time something in me says there has to be something steady uneffected clear pure...  Can't I just let go of the discomfort? It is annoying.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 19, 2017, 11:02:19 am
I would not want to spend time with me. I am a Drama queen, boring and self-centred  :-X
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 19, 2017, 11:03:51 am
But the fact that : nothing matters' gives me a huge wave of relief
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 20, 2017, 01:51:50 am
Excellent!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on June 27, 2017, 06:58:27 am
The urge to (self-)Expression is there, although there is this still Holding back mechanism, and surrendering/expressing one Piece at a time, not all of it at once. Hiding much?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 28, 2017, 05:57:32 am
 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 01, 2017, 06:05:51 am
Nothing to do, nothing to Change, nothing to say... hm.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 01, 2017, 06:25:02 am
 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 01, 2017, 08:36:46 am
Row row row your boat  8) ::) :D

Awaiting the next psychological breakdown  :P :( Will it come? Can I know anything for sure? No... Waiting.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 02, 2017, 01:11:36 am
You are anticipating something specific. That is sufficient to hide what is. Just remain as open a you can.

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 02, 2017, 03:37:23 am
Well what I see or what appears to be is that enjoying this Moment is sufficient and awe-some  ::) There is this wish for being at the sea and Surfing. Well... and ... nothing. I dreamed (within my actual dream) that I need only not to contradict a desire to manifest it. Did I come up with this, or did I just read it somewhere? Feels right.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 04, 2017, 09:55:43 am
The only thing that dies make sense - or does it? Is loving, giving, hm! Nothing else makes sense .. how can I take from anyone if this is already enough?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 05, 2017, 03:56:09 am
Can one really take anything or give anything in a dream... really?  Just one dream character playing with another. You might want to play with letting everything be as it appears to be. What use is there in seeking to change a dream? Can you really effect anything?

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 05, 2017, 03:49:25 pm
It feels as though I can change something . I can eat something I want to eat, I can do what I want, I control where I go but : no I do not , I would not choose things that are not pleasurable, I would not choose pain  and Apparantly there is a lot of unpleasant emotion in me Here. I hate it, I want to push the unpleasantness away, it should not be here and yet it is and I make it bigger by fighting ... it is here , it thus has a right to existence or at least a space.. it hurts and being the hurt is the wish to actually keep the hurt and to stay 'me'.itll kill me or die, but either way I will die -- ranting , sorry. Words cannot express anything .
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 06, 2017, 03:18:27 am
 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 06, 2017, 05:59:32 am
Why would I worry about what others think or do in regard to my own bs? They are not even real !!! I am biased with all the bs belief systems... and darn , I have no control , makes me angry but also free.. should get rid of what I do in order to not be happy ; happy is the way to go; maybe;
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 06, 2017, 06:10:38 am
If you are H/A and happy, woohoo... good for you. If you are seeking T/R are happy, screw it, blast right through. Otherwise you get stuck. Happiness comes and goes, Truth is always there... or more accurately, here.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 06, 2017, 06:39:54 am
more satisfying than happiness to me is depth of experience anyway ; whatever that means
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 06, 2017, 07:22:40 am
I don't have a clue...
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 09, 2017, 11:32:13 am
Where do I look again? I do want to look and see but I seem to have forgotten how to. When I look back there is this judgement of all the previous Posts but the whole low self esteem issue I am not buying anymore  :o Where do I look again? Maybe passed that whiny small child within me
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 10, 2017, 06:10:50 am
Maybe.... look and see..

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 10, 2017, 02:53:37 pm
Am i really the only?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 13, 2017, 09:05:45 am
i am hiding so much ..I do NOT want to realize that nothing matters .. after All: I love my bf ... or my bf is loved? Life does it ?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 15, 2017, 05:17:52 am
You don't love you boyfriend, you love the stories about you boyfriend and how he makes you feel.

I probably love you B/F more than you think you do because I have no stories attached. I just am him... simple as heck and hard as heck to realize.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 17, 2017, 10:54:42 am
I am a fake. My relationship is a fake. My words are fake. Do I stay or do I go? I want to be honest, do I have the Courage? Where ain't I honest? I am sorry for this inner monologue of mine but recently got very confused with this mind of 'mine'. I see the tree, the birds, the flowers, the sky, and everyone tells me how life should be, I am a puppet on a string. For my relationship/man, for this Little taste of happiness but what for? Suffering until life's end? Noooo  >:( Am I even 'a woman'? My goodness. No, of Course not
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 19, 2017, 05:45:32 am
It is the weirdest weirdest Thing to realize that I am all that is. I can compare this to being tipsy of wine, and not caring anymore about thoughts or People. Why would 'I' drink wine then? ;)  ::) High on my-self. All the time? It does not make sense. This does not make sense. Life feels like a creative interaction between worlds and there seem to be energy whirls where 'I' can enter and interact. Fly me to the moon? This is so weird. I am finding myself letting go of my projections on what People might Project onto me. If this all does not make sense, where to go? Is this really the life I want to live?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 20, 2017, 02:11:11 am
First off, you don't live any life and honesty is impossible, you can only get closer to honest and further away.

You are being dreamed and the purpose is purely entertainment... now, get out and enjoy the show.

Love ya Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 23, 2017, 12:08:55 pm
Guess I have to make the best of it  ::)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 23, 2017, 12:33:54 pm
As the tuk tuk drivers say when I ask ''how much?'', ''up to you''. No matter how much I pay it will be more than a local, but they need it much more than I do... so... it's up to you. Make the best of it or don't. But which ever you choose, remember it's DIY job.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on July 26, 2017, 11:40:46 am
Do you have any tips on how to treat the body, I do not want to take any medication in order to stay 'in order'. Still, this takes a lot of energy apparantly, I feel nauseous and dizzy, without orientation. If this is what it is there needs to be Integration done, otherwise body will fall apart. Thank you in advance very much
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 27, 2017, 12:53:12 am
In my experience doing some basic yoga and Chi Gong is the best you can do for your dream body. I've done it most of my adult life and have keep the dream alive and healthy... but must be regular and not extreme.

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on August 05, 2017, 05:41:39 am
Not enjoying my path? What am I avoiding?  ::)
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on August 06, 2017, 04:24:37 am
Ok, got it
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on August 06, 2017, 04:49:44 am
Now go and do something with it, anything will do... ::) ::) ::)

 Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on August 09, 2017, 07:21:58 am
What is the most intelligent Thing to do while waiting to die?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on August 10, 2017, 04:41:01 am
Stop waiting and die to the illusion that you were ever a alive.

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on August 12, 2017, 03:08:29 pm
Okay. Well. The Thing is.  ??? ??? The Thing I thought I wanted just leaves my life, and I realize I did not want it  :-\ Well, it will stick anyway. Why?  ::) And the Things that are good for me, just come. Why  :-X ? Crazy! Thanks!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on August 14, 2017, 12:06:30 am
Cheers....
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on August 14, 2017, 04:49:02 am
The basic line is I don't know anything . I might ask myself: why? And come up with reason after reason but the thing is there is no reason!
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on August 15, 2017, 03:03:29 am
I am seeing patterns ... energy ... interesting ! Enjoying it 😊
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on August 15, 2017, 03:06:56 am
O.K. Now ignore them and get on with your work... further.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on August 15, 2017, 07:10:13 am
I want to feel more aligned -
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on August 17, 2017, 01:07:41 am
Your wanting to feel aligned it the source of you lack of feeling aligned. You don't even know what aligned is... other than your current source of suffering.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on August 17, 2017, 03:50:52 am
Sounds like the I cannot be aligned. Only life can be aligned, is aligned. The I is something occurring in the stream of everything, everything is always aligned, the I obstructs it? Feeling bad is a thought? Making up better stories might help? Better stories should also make up a better life, at least for the I-thought. I don't know, there is much confusion
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on August 17, 2017, 04:31:24 am
Who is to be aligned with what? Do you think anything could possibly not aligned, other than a thought that says so?

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on August 17, 2017, 05:49:55 am
Feels very peaceful to know that everything is as it is -- there is much guilt stemming from so called past experiences and the thought that I am wrong and do not have high self esteem -- I does not even feel like having low self esteem but others -- if there are any - accepted that I think low of my-self . Only thought within thought 💭 I am scared of opening up and leaving attachments behind -- this is ok - no one above 'me' but leaving that low esteem thought behind opens up new doors. Does it?
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on August 18, 2017, 05:29:32 am
Find out for yourself. I suggest you just go for it.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: mindlessbutter on August 18, 2017, 01:00:42 pm
Well. It opens up a lot of pain to say the least. I am constantly fighting for a horrible relationship, to get 'him' back and get his Attention back while actually thinking he is toxic for me. Having worth... well, would not do that --> pain! (not suffering - pain!) Have to go through it I suppose
Title: Re: Have been here before
Post by: Jed McKenna on August 19, 2017, 10:02:09 am
Yup.... right through the middle.

Love ya, Jed.