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Title: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 29, 2017, 10:08:07 pm
Dear Members and Lurkers:

I have already written on this subject, but here I go again.

I constantly give to beggars here. Not huge amounts as I think spreading it around is better than a large sum to any one person. They are unbelievably grateful and gracious. Giving me blessings and thank yous that would melt an iceberg.

A strange thing sometimes happens. When I find someone who is particularly gracious and beautiful (young, old, male, female have nothing to do with the beauty I speak of, it's all in the eyes and their expressions of gratitude), I give some money and when I turn to walk away I feel this strange compulsion to turn around and give some more.

Sometimes I have turned back twice or even three times. Compelled by their eyes and graciousness I reach into my right pocket when I keep the local currency, grab my wad for the day and hand it all to them. Sometimes a little voice in my head says ''Crap... I give up'' as I am overcome by their gratitude. There is no money, no beggar and not me...but I still needs something to play with.

I didn't really learn this lesson, I was taught it by a legless beggar in Indonesia, tens of years ago. His motive capabilities where limited to pushing himself around on an 2 feet by 2 feet piece of plywood on four casters. Something like what you might move your fridge with. His smile is still fresh in my mind after forty years. And the strangest thing was most of his teeth where gold. I wonder where he got the money for them...  ??? ??? ??? He radiated and it was not just the sun reflecting off his teeth, but that probably contributed.

There is a lesson here for you too ... what is it? Not about T/R, but about a better dream while you still appear in the dream of humanness. When you reach T/R (and you will one way or the other) I won't matter if you give or not, but you will probably give a great deal.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Mr Important on June 30, 2017, 09:50:06 am
Ah.. i see. You're addicted to gratitude. Well.. i have this method to get rid if it.. but it wil cost you some money  ;D
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: mariam on June 30, 2017, 11:48:52 am
Ah.. i see. You're addicted to gratitude. Well.. i have this method to get rid if it.. but it wil cost you some money  ;D

addicted to gratitude? that's one way of looking at it...

or

maybe just open to experiencing the happiest of dreams?

Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Mr Important on June 30, 2017, 12:00:03 pm
 ;D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Marina_ on June 30, 2017, 02:33:18 pm
So it turned out I returned to Belarus without money. Friends and relatives helped me. I didn’t ask for anything. They took the initiative themselves. Money, products. Someone invited me to visit, and "coincidentally" at this time they had dinner. I dined in a warm friendly company.
I was very touched. They tried to help me in this way that I didn't feel that I owed them.
Now I already have an influx of money. Difficult time behind. But I can't call it difficult. It was a happy time.

I understand you, Jed. I also have such impulses when there is an opportunity.
Maybe I'm too frivolous about money and things. But is there anything here that belongs to me?

Is this a lesson? I call it compassion. Great thing! And where else can we experiense it?

Jed, once you said you are a bit obsessed with the truth.
I guess I'm obsessed with the Earth.
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Jed McKenna on June 30, 2017, 10:09:58 pm
Thanks for sharing....

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Lili on July 01, 2017, 02:16:59 am
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There is a lesson here for you too ... what is it? Not about T/R, but about a better dream while you still appear in the dream of humanness.

Accept whatever is happening, surend and feel gratitude for life and living no matter how "bad" it could be. Then life itself will take care of you... and bring you even golden teeth.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 02, 2017, 04:49:58 am
Thank you Lili...

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: sixohs on July 02, 2017, 11:21:48 am
Without going into too much mental ****,

I have nothing to complain about. Typing from my mac book pro, in my A/C, in the city of Miami, FL.

Yet, I still want more.

What I have is not enough.

Not enough unti I get to the top.

Yet, in other countries, thousands upon thousands are suffering less than humane conditions.

Just trying to get to the next bite to eat.

In my context, they are the back burner problem that I can do nothing about.

Its not their fault that they are screwed. The circumstances made it so.

Not fair.


Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: greenlantern on July 02, 2017, 02:31:06 pm
What top????  If everything is an illusion and there is no top, then what are you trying to accomplish? Better yet, who is the one trying to get to the top?
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: sixohs on July 02, 2017, 05:59:44 pm
Lets get real here.

yes everything is illusory.

But wealth is still a very important part of this illusory world.

Mainly because of the freedom it provides.


i may or may not be real, the world may be a figment of my imagination.  who cares.

Waking up to 100 grand in your bank account, will make the illusory world much more entertaining.

Why kill the dream? Its the whole point of everything.



Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: greenlantern on July 02, 2017, 07:15:31 pm
If you have created a dream in which money is of great importance and provides you the freedom you desire, then awesome.  Maybe by letting go of the attachment to money and what it is and provides.....more will just come to you.  Trust me, I have gone round the bush with this one many times.  Just noticing that the more I let go of my attachment to
 and the "realness" of money;  that money is of little concern now and that it is always there.
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: sixohs on July 02, 2017, 09:08:56 pm
I have noticed this recently. I lost my job 2 weeks ago. I realize that if I keep working for paychecks...Ill always get paychecks.
Ive decided, to forget trying to get another job.
If it comes down to it, ill live out of my car, and work minimally to cover my expense, so that I can live.
Money should be a thing I use to live....not something I live to make.

Somehow, money has been popping up.
I will explore this a little more.

Any tips?

Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: greenlantern on July 02, 2017, 10:03:27 pm
Just trust and let go.... especially when its most uncomfortable.  And then do it again
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: mariam on July 03, 2017, 10:14:46 am
i have no choice in the matter. i can only give to my Self.
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: mariam on July 03, 2017, 10:17:56 am
and yeah, recognizing that is the cat's smile.

forgive me for breaking the one-post-a-day boundary. sometimes i find myself returning to give a little more.  :-*
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 09, 2017, 12:03:50 am
Thank you all for you post and Mr. Important... I particularly like that one.

I am grateful to all of you.

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Rob on July 10, 2017, 02:03:15 am
Hello Jed,

Nice, the need to give is probebly something that overcomes enlightment.... or is enlightment the same as giving... endless giving. I see you doing it here, giving answers that are already given in youre books. But people probably dont reed well? Enyway, Bhagwan did the same thing, gving giving and giving...answers that were already given a thousand times in his books but he kept on giving till he died.

Maybe is the urge of giving the last attachment to humannes?

Love

Rob
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 10, 2017, 05:52:22 am
Hi Rob:

Thank you for your observations, I would equate giving and allowing. I have nothing to give and nothing is what I seek for you to get. Allowing you to accept nothing, or perhaps reject it, is the allowing component. Sometimes I wonder why I don't grow tired of this, but then I think of when I was a seeker (yes, I do think now and then) and was lost in NABS (new age b.s.) surrounded by hundreds of books full of silly drivel yet continually looking for more and more when what I really needed was less and less.

Perhaps I am becoming a sentimental old fool, still have some gas in the tank.

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Rob on July 10, 2017, 06:31:12 am
Thanks for the replay.

hahaha, conversations with you always ends like this...something like: you are not there, there is no one to give, so there is nothing to give, nor to recieve because you are here either... But still we are here on a forum you opened en you control, oh no, you are not there and its all illusion...  Advaita blabla stuff, enyway for me. I am human, a part of that is caught in time and matter and I agree to it and sometimes I even like it.... for now. I also am no matter, not caught in time, and I agree to that too....hence for that part there is no one to agree. In spite of that, I stil have to buy food because my body needs it, I still have to have a house, living in Holland it can get very cold and wet out here.. al part of being human and saying yess to that part of my exsistance, and saying yes to that part of my non-exsistance.

Is it so hard to accept that part of you that is still here, cauht in time and matter...  you write "I", you write about getting older, you write about getting tired, al human aspects in relationship with matter and time, and still you write about not being here... why cant it excisit together, the mountain is there, and now its not, and voila, there it is again, and wow, nou its gone again...

just wonder...

Love

Rob     
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 10, 2017, 09:35:16 am
Wondering is a wonderful place to be... enjoy it.

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. Your body might prefer eating, but I assure you that what you really are doesn't care. It was never born and thus can never die.
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Mr important on July 10, 2017, 10:19:54 am
Thank you all for you post and Mr. Important... I particularly like that one.

I am grateful to all of you.

Love ya, Jed

We share the same problem. I just reactivated my account to  express my gratitude. Thanks mr  ;D

And shame on me for letting me being pulled back in here.. ;)
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 10, 2017, 07:21:18 pm
Just doing my job....

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: guest1413 on July 11, 2017, 01:29:21 pm
Is that true?   ??? ;D
I'm sorry man.. for not being able to post anything serious. No im not. Absolutely not. I am not sorry.
Ehm....just doing my job i guess...
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Artyom on August 19, 2017, 07:29:12 pm
Well, I finally have decided to write some b.s. of my prodution. What Jed is expressing by words is not 3D sutff. It's beyond that. It's beyond any-D stuff. Intuitively we can feel what is beyond, but the mind gives shape to it and converts it to limited stuff that can be kinda comprehended or at least mind can beleive that it knows something. Anyway... These are all attempts to express and formulate in words that which can't be formulated correctly without distortion. But what the hell? Many people (including me) like rock and metal music and the essence of it is DISTORTION and DRIVE. But the subtle energy that governs this precoess is here. So... The question is what to do??? HOW do we make next step? For every person there is UNIQUE answer. So.... should we contninue this pointless conversaion? SURE! Why not? But we shouldn't take it too seriously if we are tired of trouble ofcourse.
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: guest1679 on August 11, 2018, 02:56:34 am
Unconditionality is void of need.
Title: Re: Jed Rant: Is Jed getting a little soft in the heart.
Post by: Jed McKenna on August 12, 2018, 05:46:45 am
.... and need is void of unconditionality....go figure.

Love ya, Jed.