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Title: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 19, 2017, 09:15:17 am
Dear Members, Lurkers and Devotional Bliss-bunnies:

Have you ever wonder how far along the road to H/A you have come, or perhaps, looked at someone and wondered how far he or she is along the path to adulthood? Over too many years of study, observation and experience, I have found that there is one very consistent indicator.

Drama is all about not getting what one wants... about frustration, loss, inadequacies, bad parents, kids in jail, just about any situation where someone doesn't get what they want, and even better, someone else gets it. Drama is based on shoulds, coulds, wouldn't, needs, wants, just about anything that goes against what is. What is is exactly what is and not amount of denying it has ever changed it.

Imagine this, you are struggling along in life and you next door neighbor comes charging in one day, glowing like a Cali grow op, and declares he has won the lottery, who hoo! Ecstatic in a Homer Simpson way... smiles from ear to ear.

Now...my question is how are you going to feel? All shoulds and shouldn't aside, how would you react? Your actual response is an excellent measure of how adult you are.

Imagine you turn on CNN and announcer has gone all Jim Carrey on the TV audience. ''Evening folks, well... not much happened today, mostly same old same old, pretty much like yesterday, Yeh, another hurricane, but same as the first.... oh.. it seems that Bob and Better Sturnholme in Eugene, Oregon had a new grandchild, a little boy... congrats to the fam... so... that's about it. I'll probably be here tomorrow, but don't expect anything exciting. See ya then. Love ya."

Then you turn to your favorite soap, As the Stomach Turns. This is the first new season episode and finds Laura and Nancy talking over a coffee. Nancy is totally heads over heals for Jason, a real hunk. Laura says, ''Well, why don't you just come out and ask him to marry you''. Nancy says,  "You think I could do that?''. ''Well, worst he could say is no''.

Nancy plucks up the courage and asks Jason. He says ''Yes''... they get married and end up deliriously happy into their golden years. Of course the soap is promptly canned and the writer fired.

But drama doesn't work like that. In the dramatic version, Nancy asks Jason and he says he is in love with Laura and won't marry her. Of course Laura is gay and in love with Nancy and delighted with Jame's rejection of the proposal. Laura is not going to get what she wants because Nancy is as straight as an arrow. End of episode.

Life is more like this than not for most people. Folks like watching TV and actually believe it... spend hours each day watching soaps and the like. Maybe it's forums or blogs, the kinds that foment argument and demeaning posts ... and in doing so lift the observer and writer up to new heights of illusory self-esteem.

So, watch yourself and others. The draw to drama is a pretty good indicator of how adult you are. How you feel about your neighbor winning that lottery will tell you plenty about yourself if you listen.

What do you want but aren't getting? What do you want and it seems everyone but you is getting it? What do you not want yet is seems to be constantly turning up in your world? A better question would be, how do you know that you want or don't want something? What informs you of your preferences? Are you sure you want and don't want certain things?

Maybe take a moment and want exactly what you have in this moment. What law says you can't want what arises to you? What or who is the ultimate adjudicator of what is right or wrong? Is that little voice in your head even yours? Maybe it's a parent, an early school teacher, a minister, a friend you look up to.. I don't know. BUT, I don't listen to any voice that isn't MINE, which means there are very few voices going around in my head... and if it happens to say something, I listen closely.

So, where are you on your journey to H/A... and while on the topic, why even bother with H/A? I can answer for you (yeah, sheesh, I actually am that arrogant)... because you aren't happy. That sums it up, make up all the reasons you want, but that is what it boils down to... am I right? Come on, be honest, am I right? You read this far so somethings bothering you.

If you are still reading, let me offer you some (non-asked for) advice. Stop engaging in, watching, encouraging drama in your life. It's only going to give you a temporary rush, like that double chocolate fudge banana split sunday... in the end it will take years off your life and life out of your years. You haven't materialized in the dream to burn yourself out with misery and drama. You might be doing that right now though... have a look and see. What have you done lately that was like throwing gas on your drama campfire?

How far are you along the road to becoming an adult... it's right in front of you.

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. I hope my friggin neighbor buys are quieter lawnmower with his lotto winnings so I can sleep in more. God meant me to sleep in, that's why I do it.





 


Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: guest1413 on September 19, 2017, 10:34:36 am
Today the question: what will remain of me if ill cut loose my drama... and now you post this.. 🤔 I am nothing without it. Time to make something fun out of this peace of ****.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 19, 2017, 11:04:57 am
Always a good time for fun....
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Marina_ on September 19, 2017, 02:53:34 pm
Sometimes it seems to me that I'm writing to myself. ))
What you write is my thoughts.

What do you want but aren't getting? What do you want and it seems everyone but you is getting it? What do you not want yet is seems to be constantly turning up in your world? A better question would be, how do you know that you want or don't want something? What informs you of your preferences?
These are very profound questions. Very concentrated.
The answers to these questions are the keys.

... the keys to freedom...

Jed, dear, I have nothing to add to the topic.
Love you.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 20, 2017, 04:50:06 am
Well, don't ask me... you already know the answer.

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: DragonTree on September 21, 2017, 05:29:49 am
Are you sure you want and don't want certain things?
Am I sure?
Do I want things?
Do I want this cereal in front of me?
There’s salivation
Quick surges of commands to eat.

How do I know what I want?
What is in control here?  Cause it's not me
do i eat that cereal or do i throw it out? either way its not my decision. just looking at that stupid bowl is bothering me now.
How do I decide?
Cereal on wall  :(
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 21, 2017, 01:12:07 pm
Well then, I suggest you have nothing to do with it or me...

But wouldn't that be an adult approach to your opinions?

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: bree on September 21, 2017, 02:31:42 pm
Dude , you are a real deal ! Awesome *slowclap*
Yes , in my life I encouraged drama around the dream of travelling with someone else's money ( like company sponsored trip for strictly official purposes). I have the money to travel on my own .. but no .. the dream is strictly about company travel. .. which makes me ( or might make me ) feel competent , more power and you know .. a reason to be arrogant in my demeanour.

Everyone else I know had travelled on company's expense. But not me. I imagined arrogance/ confidence as my end prize out of this dreamy thing. Everyone else seems getting a chance to travel on company's .. but not me. I used to cry alot. That crying was for my only longing desire.
Well, now I don't cry that much. These wailing episodes used to go on for years loaded with self loathing and guilt .. now they last for 30mins max.

So, not bad a progress on H/A front.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: purpleroses111 on September 21, 2017, 05:32:08 pm
Hmm, this mind is most bothered by seeing people in perceived happy relationships and getting dates. Strange thing called envy. Not ever having had a significant other is my most persistent stumbling block. Maybe it's the final one, I don't know.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: jonnydas on September 21, 2017, 09:56:19 pm
Still rantin'. Good show. You rock, Jed. Thanks for everything.

JDas.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 22, 2017, 02:09:55 am
Good work...all of you.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Marina_ on September 22, 2017, 03:53:58 am
 :D :D :D
Yesterday I re-read the topic and the replies ..
You answered the question of the forum member, and then he deleted his question. So your reply turned up after my post.
And suddenly a sequence appeared.
So funny!

…Laura says, ''Well, why don't you just come out and ask him to marry you''…
…Nancy plucks up the courage and asks Jason. He says ''Yes''...

What you write is my thoughts…

Jed, dear, I have nothing to add to the topic.
Love you.

Well, don't ask me... you already know the answer.

Love ya, Jed

 ;D

I entered the word "marry" in the context dictionary:

'marry':

'So, monster or not, you must marry him.'
'Maria 46074 To merry to a foreigner- what are the reasons of this occurrence?'


Have a fun day.  :-* ;D
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Marina_ on September 22, 2017, 07:24:07 am
By the way, a good example of manipulating quotes, giving them a different meanings. ))
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 23, 2017, 01:52:56 am
Do you really know the meaning of anything?

Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Marina_ on September 23, 2017, 10:17:25 am
No
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 23, 2017, 10:20:53 am
Somewhat strangely....I would suggest you do know the meaning of everything. All meaning is made up by you.. so how would you not know. Bet ya didn't expect that come back  ;) ;) ;)


Love ya, Jed
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Marina_ on September 23, 2017, 11:14:55 am
I didn't expect.

P.S. Corrected the answer. I continue to make mistakes in English.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 24, 2017, 12:45:23 am
So do I...  ??? ??? ???

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Marina_ on September 26, 2017, 02:11:50 am
Please explain: "come back ... (where?) ..."
I want to know, did I understand you correctly?
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on September 26, 2017, 12:33:49 pm
I don't have a clue... than God.


Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Marina_ on September 26, 2017, 11:04:11 pm
I got it right. :-)
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: notwriting on October 17, 2017, 07:16:57 pm
Please explain: "come back ... (where?) ..."
I want to know, did I understand you correctly?
A "come back" is when you say something to someone and they reply, usually with the implication that it's done quickly and is maybe witty, or, as in this case, (presumed to be) unexpected.

Also, when he says "than God" what he meant to type was "thank God". ;)
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Marina_ on October 23, 2017, 06:22:06 am
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on October 24, 2017, 01:02:56 am
Thanks for those corrections... I'm no much on details.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: myusername on November 25, 2017, 01:44:51 am
I imagine my unhappiness clouding my reaction toward my neighbor. Wouldn't say I'm jealous but carrying too much future 'wants' that I'm not really even sure if there would be a reaction. Maybe a smirk. Currently soaked in my own pointless desires. Time to investigate.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on November 25, 2017, 08:03:00 am
I'm loving it and will use it someday....''Currently soaked in my own pointless desires''. Damn, that's good!

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Stephan on November 27, 2017, 01:30:09 am
And the rant of the year award goes to.... (insert drum role)..  Jed Mckenna! You deserve this award winning message my man! ;)

 
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on November 27, 2017, 11:19:25 pm
Thank you for your kind words. I have this ''thing'' about social media, well, it's not that I have it, there is no ''I'', but I watch it arise from time to time.

It is a plague upon the world. There, I said it, and probably indicated that I am an old fuddy-duddy. So what?

Love ya, Jed.

Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: guest1413 on November 28, 2017, 11:56:17 am
No jed. You are right about that. Here's a 35 yr young god confirming.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on November 29, 2017, 01:17:11 am
 :o :o :o :P :P :P ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Lian on December 01, 2017, 02:43:46 pm
The human identity (adult or not) is a false identity. No matter how mature a human adult is, (s)he is still false (full of pretense).
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on December 01, 2017, 11:02:41 pm
Of course H/A is a false identity, I would never say otherwise. It has nothing to do directly with T/R, however, a truly H/A person is carrying precious little garbage around in the dream. Things are lighter, more fun, just generally much better. Should you reach/experience T/R then being H/A makes the transition and and various ''side'' experiences much more .. hm... gentle.

T/R has been called the ''Divine Accident'' and H/A folks are much more accident prone (in the good sense of those words).

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Lian on December 02, 2017, 08:54:36 am
Sounds like people allow themselves to be controlled by Maya (accident prone), not caring about anything as long as they are happy.

I believe that whatever humans do in the natural state is determined by the programming of the higher self (still a false identity). If so, then what people call intuition or instinct is based on false beliefs (of the higher self).
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on December 03, 2017, 02:58:14 am
All beliefs are false and just poor substitutions for ''knowing''.... I suggest you discard all hope, all belief and all faith... then seek knowing. If it's knowing about the human dream it's not knowing, just thinking. Discard that promptly as well.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: hurnimo on December 06, 2017, 03:06:12 pm
I find drama a spectacle. Incapable of having it myself, I find it fascinating, depending on my mood, sometimes a gawker, other times a quick exiter.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on December 06, 2017, 06:33:53 pm
Thanks for sharing.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: guest451 on December 11, 2017, 03:29:47 pm
Whenever the whats left of i focusses on something that it doesn't want, ie drama...it seems that the subconscious feeds the conscious i mind to focus on just that; The drama and hence bringing it in reality and high fiving Maya. Therefor to not focus on drama, is really to focus on the opposite. 



Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on December 12, 2017, 04:26:01 am
 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Masahiro13 on December 14, 2017, 02:27:53 am
What are you gonna to do today Napoleon?
Whatever I feel like I wanna do, Gosh.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: guest451 on December 20, 2017, 06:43:36 pm
who the **** is Napoleon really?
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on December 21, 2017, 01:33:40 am
 ??? ??? ??? ::)
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 11, 2018, 06:21:22 am
The big problem with drama is that almost everyone is sucked into unconsciously. Drama in and of itself isn't bad, but it can be draining and a waste of time. I suggest you just be aware as possible, of as much as possible.

You will smell drama coming from a mile away... perhaps duck, maybe not.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: guest451 on May 14, 2018, 07:01:03 pm
thanks
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Rockhopper on May 16, 2018, 05:58:25 pm
I was on the path to ordaining as a Buddhist monk but somehow fate intervened and I ended up in an ashram reading your books instead. I'm no longer in either environment but how do I gauge my true reaction to the neighbour winning the lottery when part of that Buddhist training was in Mudita (sympathetic joy)? I never know if my equanimity and sympathetic joy is authentic or conditioned.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 16, 2018, 09:23:31 pm
You word ''inauthentic'' raises red flag and I am el toro and bent on charging. What meaneth thou by such utterance.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Rockhopper on May 17, 2018, 01:41:16 am
At first I was wondering if I'm placid, amiable and cheering others on because of all my 'training' / turd polishing in all these spiritual cul de sacs I've ventured down or if it is requiring effort by me to be in that state? If so I'm probably further off HA than I thought? But a deeper question arises, does it even matter how I'm being since it's just dreamstate? Who was I to look down on those that it seemed to me had lost their moral compass? Does it matter how you behave if everything is false anyway?
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 18, 2018, 06:13:54 am
Well... it it's all false then you can behave any way you want, correct? So, how do you want to behave? It doesn't matter to me, but it might matter to what appears to be you. But, do you have any say in how you behave? Really. How do you make decisions as to how to behave? Do you really make any decisions?

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. One other question, would you like a happy, rewarding, pleasant dream or a crappy one?
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Rockhopper on May 18, 2018, 07:01:38 am
Correct if it's just a dream behave how you want it would now seem. I've never felt I had a choice of how to behave before. I've always been a conformist. Keep your head down and stay out of trouble type. I suspect I'd have trouble playing a bad guy or being mean or dishonest. I will have to sit with that question a bit longer. On the second question I want a happy, rewarding, pleasant dream. My memories / hallucinations of my current dream up to now have been less than desirable and often crappy. So did I weave this crappy dream or did Maya weave it? Who is writing the script to this whole experience and appearance?
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on May 19, 2018, 12:14:02 am
You have written the script, are the actors, the screen, and projector, all of it. BUT, before you berate yourself for a crappy dream, I am not talking about the you that you think you are. I am talking about a much different you, the you that all this is arising in. That you has no concern for good or back, it only provided everything needed for the dream. How it unravels is the Mystery.

Love ya, Jed.
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Masahiro13 on July 20, 2018, 03:39:59 am
Thanks for still being here to assist Jed.
I'm having this weird experience of seeing myself react to people and situations while simultaneously seeing the irrelevance of the reaction. My inclination is to remove myself from the uncomfortableness of the energy I feel so acutely coming from the angsty teenagers around me.  At the same time I think that any resistance indicates an identification with some mental pretext which goes against the flow of energy happening now.
Most of the significant advances (breaking down of blockages, expandings into freedom) have come from going into that which I resist. Fear, pain, the void.
My question is, is this just another byway? Can I keep challenging my resistance adnauseum, forever?
Love and appreciation to all the contributors, what else is there but this sh*t?
M
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Masahiro13 on July 20, 2018, 03:47:25 am
So, to be more succinct, I don't create or participate in drama, but I don't like being around it either.
That seems to indicate a level of personal investment.
An unwilling participant in the drama is still a participant in the drama.
How do you go with being around drama Jed?
Title: Re: Jed Rant, Your H/A rating.
Post by: Jed McKenna on July 23, 2018, 04:03:13 am
Dear M:

The well of this human dream is pretty deep. Do it until you don't have to.

Regarding drama. You know when it's coming and you know who is bringing it with them. You don't listen to yourself though because of two things. First off, you can point to it and say ''I'm better than that''. Secondly, when you are involved in the drama it give you a rush, a stimulus that makes you feel alive.

Jut watch and learn. What else is there to do.

Love ya, Jed.