INVISIBLE GURU FORUM
Member Forum => Member Posts => Topic started by: KenBrace on February 04, 2018, 08:15:09 am
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Hey Jed,
What do you think about the idea of karma?
I don't mean the popular, new age idea that there is a cosmic justice system that punishes and rewards actions based on their ethical quality. I mean the concept that Alan Watts talks about which is basically the idea that your entire existence is your own doing. That there is only the eternal now and that space doesn't act. The moment an idea of "self" forms so that an action can be taken, a complementary "other" forms along with it. Usually, we identify with the "self" half but forget the equally important "other" half and don't realize that the two are creating each other. So then in that case, what you do happens to you and what happens to you is what you do, since "doing" and "happening" create each other.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Ken
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Not many thoughts at all. What you have presented is just thoughts and ideas... find out what is real for you.
Love ya, Jed
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When you say that nothing is real, what do you mean by “real”? Is awareness real?
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Humans are 180 degrees off on almost everything. Anything you think is real is not real, now... what is left ??? ??? ???
Love ya, Jed.
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I guess nothing would be left. Any thoughts on how the illusion is created? Because it seems like there would be nothing to create it.
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So would unity consciousness then just be a dream where you clearly understand the pattern with which the dream unfolds? Karma would be the dreams unfolding pattern.
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Don't complicate things unnecessarily. Anything you can see, hear or feel (experience) is not ''It''. Focus on what doesn't appear to arise, on the context, the space it arises in. Don't worry about how the illusion is created. That's just mental foolery. You sound like a smart cookie... but are you smart enough to play the fool... to realize that there is no point in looking for something where it doesn't exist.... and the answers you seek do you exist in any mind or any story...
Love ya, Jed
P.S. All my blathering is also a story.... ah...crap!
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Hey Jed, what are your thoughts on the idea of a permanent ego death? Ram Dass talks about how you can enter the “wedding feast” with psychedelics but if you aren’t wearing the right “garments” you’ll get kicked out. He also said that once you’ve glimpsed the possibility with drugs, there was no longer any point in using them. You might as well get on with the real work. You can destroy your ego temporarily with a drug but once it wears off, your old mental patterns settle back in. It doesn’t seem like realizing a truth about the universe is the same thing as clearing ones mind of negative patterns. I remember having an ego death once and I could clearly see what caused the suffering in my life. At the time, I thought I would be in that void state forever since the truth was extremely obvious and there’s no way I’d be able to forget any of it. I still remember the key realization “on paper” so to speak but it’s not the same as feeling it with every fiber of your being. Knowing that you’re the inside and the outside intellectually is not the same as feeling both sides of the universe moving together in this moment and intuitively understanding life’s unfolding pattern.
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It's no enough that you understand, it's important that you don't misunderstand. Everything you think you understand is definitely a misunderstanding. For heaven's sake, don't ask me to explain that... because it would make it an understanding. Understand?
Love ya, Jed.
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Hey Jed, so recently I’ve been getting these incredible rushes that go up my spine and cause my forehead to raise. It’s sort of like if you’ve ever been listening to music and got goosebumps when a really good part kicked in, except way more intense and it lasts longer. It’s accompanied by feelings of falling in love with life. I also feel pressure starting at the base of my spine and whenever I get these rushes, the wave starts from there and goes upward. When this first started happening my intuition told me that this is what it feels like when you are coming into alignment with the rest of the universe. I’ll have a thought pop up about what I should be focusing on in life and it feels so much like the right way to go that I start getting those rushes. I did some research and the closest thing I’ve found that describes what I’m experiencing is Kundalini. Any thoughts on what this might be or have you experienced anything similar yourself?
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In the past I have experienced a number of such things... and thankfully I knew enough to ignore them. They are distractions, sometimes quite wonderful, but distractions nonetheless. Ignore then.
T/R is not an experience, it's a very deep knowing that is not describable. Ignore experiences... what's next? What's left... that's You!
Love ya, Jed.
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Is truth realization related to how the brain functions? If the brain dies at death, then wouldn't the awakened existence vanish? At that point, awakening will have simply provided a temporary change in how the rest of this life is experienced. Do you think experience continues after the brain dies and if so, what impact would enlightenment have?
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Imagine you are going on a holiday, let's say Grand Canyon. You drive there in a car, (brain) but, you don't see the canyon until you part the care, turn it off, step out and walk to the edge. If you are still with me, JUMP!
Love ya, Jed.
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You say that Truth realization and unity consciousness are not the same thing.
However, how is unity consciousness possible without realizing Truth?
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Unity Consciousness... assuming we are talking about the same thing, perhaps call is ''non-dual awareness'' is a symptom on this journey, not an end point. It is still an experience and needs something to arise within, an larger context, that infinite context is Truth. Truth Realization is not an experience, it is a knowing. If one sets a hierarchy, Truth is on top... nothing further when you realize that.
Love ya, Jed.
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I’ve decided that essentially what I want is to experience an unbelievably exciting and ecstatic drama. Magical adventures, amazing discoveries, and deep love with others.
Here is my only concern. Are intense experiences the result of large amounts of life forcing getting burned? So if I get my wish and live an intense life, will it end up being short since my life force was spent faster? If that is the case then would it be better to be more conservative and focus on storing life force into this human mechanism so I have more of it to spend. Sort of like getting rich before I throw a bunch of parties.
Or does an ecstatic level of energy always flow through us and it’s only our attachments that suffocate it and dull our experience?
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Does the present moment always contain an ecstatic level of energy that is freely available without attachments wasting it? Or do intense experiences burn more life force than mellow ones? I’ve decided that I want an unimaginably exciting and ecstatic adventure with mind blowing discoveries and deep love with others. Would such a drama burn up my life force quickly and result in an early death? Would it be better to build up energy levels first with meditation? Charge up my batteries. Get rich before throwing a parties so to speak.
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Wait didn’t realize there was a page 2 so I retyped it thinking the post was lost haha.
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I suggest you let it all flow, and never attach an importance to anything. It's those importances that cause grief.
A wire carrying electricity only experiences heating up via it's resistance. Resist and you dissipate energy. Just enjoy the dream. It's all here for you.
Love ya, Jed
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Hey, I wondered if you had any thoughts on the interesting situation that I'm currently in. During my mother and father's break up, my dad shot my mother in the leg and is now in jail. Today he was granted bond and will be released soon. My mother is quite frightened and is looking to change locations and wants all of us to block him on social media, have no contact, etc. It is in situations like this where it seems almost impossible to live on both the human level and void level at once. On one hand, I know I'm everything. I'm my mother that was shot but also the dad that shot her. This contradiction is quite difficult to balance. On one level I feel like my dad is a terrible person that needs to be fought against and I am inclined to take my mother's side. But when thinking in terms of the void, I'm not sure it's a good thing to feed into a drama where my dad is a bad person that my mom has to run from. So she's really paranoid and wants me to cooperate. I do love her and would like to do whatever it takes to reduce suffering but I'm not sure if that involves coming from a detached place or an involved one. Do I buy into her drama and support it or do I try to help her redefine reality? That's sort of what my mind keeps going back and forth on. I'm not really sure what is best for her and everyone else. I try to just feel it out and that seems to be working pretty well for the most part. Just sort of felt like typing this out since it's been on my mind all day and also wondered if you had any thoughts that might be beneficial.
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T/R doesn't mean you become a complete ninny.
I would do everything I could to protect my mother and would have nothing at all to do with my father for the next...mmm... fifty years. Time for you to man up... but hey, that's just my opinion and opinions are just another part of the dream. Please ignore me and make you own decisions.
Love ya, Jed.
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Is it possible to find oneself and then get lost again? Perhaps the task is not to simply discover your true nature but to eliminate thought forms that keep pulling consciousness into traps that create bad experiences. That would mean there is a difference between glimpsing freedom and becoming it. Thoughts?
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What you say is close to my experiences and understandings. Find yourself and lose yourself... you're losing me.
Love ya, Jed.
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If one breaks free from delusion and sees reality for what it is, how long will this clear vision last?
When the body dies, will there still be a point of awareness that sees everything clearly and is free?
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You'll find out soon enough. Don't fret about a non-existent future.
Love ya, Jed.
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Seeing everything just the way it is means seeing that everything is you and there is nothing to fear. So you would be in love with the whole universe. Nothing would pop up in consciousness that fools you into thinking there is a problem or something to fear. You would never get trapped because you could always see through the games and dramas that others project. This would be absolute freedom.
Is the Truth Realization you point to just knowing a certain fact about reality or is it transforming yourself into something that is no longer tricked into delusional outlooks on the world. Something that sees the world exactly the way it is.
If so, does this perfect vision come and go or is it possible to become completely clean so that nothing ever traps you into a story with all the problems, fears, and beliefs that it includes. You would never get lost and trapped again. Could always see Truth in everything.
What are your thoughts on this?
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In a sense you are this whole universe so you don't fall in love with it. It just is love.
I don't see the world exactly as it is, there is no world to me. It's a dream and no more than a dream. Insubstantial in every way. There is no truth in anything, everything arises in this worldly appearance within Truth. This may sound similar but it's a very important distinction. One never sees though the trap because at that apparent point one sees that there is no trap and never was one. An illusion is always an illusion. An realizing that is concurrent with the disappearance of the universe.
Love ya, Jed.