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Jed Rants => Truth Realization => Topic started by: Jed McKenna on August 18, 2018, 12:05:48 pm
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Dear Reader:
I am going to teach you how to walk. Well, that's patently ridiculous so what am I on about. Let me share a contemplation that you can do while walking... and you might experience quite a change in your experience of such a simple thing.
So, first off, go for a walk, but make sure that it's a pretty simple path that you are familiar with. While you walk, your attention will, quite naturally, be on the environment, i.e., out there. Now as you walk, can you get a sense that you are creating the scene. It's true, that is what you are doing. Next, relax your focus and let your eyes slightly cross. While you do that, look at that is looking ''out''. I know it might sound strange, but just get a sense of what is ''in here''. (your ''here'', certainly not mine).
You start looking out then you look in at what was just looking out. Alternate this looking out and in. Don't think you know what your experience should be or will be ... just experience what arises. Also, I suggest you don't just do this once... stick with it and you will find something out... I can't tell you what, but you will find something out, and finding out stuff is fun.
Love ya, Jed.
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Jed, what do you mean by “slightly cross your eyes”? Googled it, found a definition of some medical condition :D
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One might describe it as ''hard'' and ''soft'' eyes. Relax your gaze. If there was a car accident in front of you then you would be focusing ''hard'' in order to see what happened. If you were relaxing in a field of flowers you focus would be ''soft''. That's about the best I can do to describe it.
Love ya, Jed.
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Got it, thanks, I’ll go and try it then.
Cheers
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Now you're gettin it..... :P :P :P
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Cool I'll try this for sure. Soft focus like when you are trying to see those deliberately hidden objects in an abstract pattern?
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Yes... that's a much better explanation than mine.
Cheers.
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If I'm creating this scene, then the sense that "I'm creating this scene" will also be made up, how can I trust that sense?
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Who said you have to trust that sense, or any sense... or, more to the point, anyone.
Love ya, Jed.
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I wil trust anyone if he realy is. :o :o ;D
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How are you going to ascertain who ''really is''... ??? ??? ??? :P ;)
Love ya, Jed.
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by simply waking up ??? :P
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Got it... now DO IT!
Love ya, Jed.
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I see a dumbass creating a scene and thinking she’s a dumbass. She doesn’t even know if that’s true though and all definition collapses in on itself. Ridiculous.
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All that crumbles is not IT... unless it's a Peach Crumble... and that is really IT! Well, almost IT. Had a Mango Crumble yesterday and that is definitely the **IT.
Love ya, Jed.
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Like how there's no I in front of Had. Respect ;D
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Now I ... full stop! :P :P :P
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The Seeker is a dead entity.
How can a dead entity realize anything?
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As long as a seeker is a seeker, the sought must remain un-found. Don't expect anything to make sense. Mysteries are fun.
Love ya, Jed.
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One might describe it as ''hard'' and ''soft'' eyes. Relax your gaze. If there was a car accident in front of you then you would be focusing ''hard'' in order to see what happened. If you were relaxing in a field of flowers you focus would be ''soft''. That's about the best I can do to describe it.
Love ya, Jed.
Is it like trying to see a stereogram?
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That's a good analogy...
Love ya, Jed
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As long as a seeker is a seeker, the sought must remain un-found. Don't expect anything to make sense. Mysteries are fun.
Love ya, Jed.
The Seeker, Seeking, creates the sought, which is none other than the seeker itself. And, if the seeker stop seeking there won't be neither seeker nor the sought.
The seeker and the sought appear and dissappear together at the same time. like every other pair: Question/Answer. Speaker/Listener, Love/Fear, Aggression/Cuteness etc.
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::) ::) :P :P :P ;) :-*
love ya, Jed.
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I got you now Jed, you mean to look "out" like relaxing our vision, normally and then cross the eyes a bit like trying to look "inward" as if we were looking who is looking.
Right?
I am trying that everytime I am outside walking to any place, the supermarket, my car, to take a bus, etc...
:-)
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You got it, go for it.
Love ya, Jed.
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I have done the exercise.
I have seen out: sounds, images, flavors, smells.
I have seen in: something hearing sounds, viewing images, smelling... but what is that thing that is viewing, hearing...?
it is not my mind, she comes after the viewing, to interpret it and say: is a tree or a dog.
Before the mind there is someting like the wall in the Plato´s cave allegory,
the shadows need to "hit" the wall to exist, otherwise they can´t exist.
inside me there is something like a wall.
Sounds and images hit this wall to exist, othewise they can´t exist.
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That assumes there is such a thing as sights, sounds and walls. :o :o :o ::)
Love ya, Jed.
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Walking had become a horror for me after I started having episodes of intense panic fear while walking in public/road etc . Which I seems to have in childhood also due to anxiety issues. Later intense egoic fear issues in work place triggered this panic walk episode filled with shame and fear.
So now resigned from work place as there is no immidiate financial emergencies and doing inquiry. Just shared.
Thanks
Pretheesh.
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Thanks for sharing that Pretheesh. Best wishes on your journey. Write me anytime.
Love ya, Jed.
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It seems one need to keep one constantly on track motivated to continue doing inquiry, it's easy to get sucked up in thoughts and fear of failure and other distractions instead of maintaining a observer-mind and focus or one-pointedness towards this process , even if this is not a self improvement process.
Any thoughts on it.?
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Not many thoughts here, you are the one having all those thoughts.... now, what do you think you should do.
Love ya, Jed.
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Hmm, I should experiment for myself and see how can I effectively do this :-X
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Sounds like a good plan.
Love ya, Jed.
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Just curious to know about this.
I just found an info about there is fast and slow thinking. One is system 1 (which is automatic response, conditioned/habitual) and system 2 (which is more hard work , need to use energy and think , for eg learning a new skill etc). Also our brains are naturally lazy to use System 2 thinking because it requires more glucose/energy usage etc.
In my experience to shut up , sit and think requires patience but it brings more clarity and understanding and also while doing coding /learnign etc i find naturally reluctant to think , but when i show the patience to sit and analyse the task, its more clear and effective in understanding and doing. There is also some sort of fear of thinking.
Is system 2 thinking that we need to repeatedly engage in for effective inquiry/ autolysis .
Thanks.
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Thanks for sharing.
Cheers.
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Please start your own thread and no comments on other thread, except in a few of my rants.
Love ya, Jed.
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Am I looking in a mirror? Who's looking? I am confused :D :D
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I understand, I have been confused, certainly, perhaps even more than others, but I love it because it always precedes learning, and learning is good too. Just embrace your confusion. To fight it will only introduce more and that new stuff, by it's nature, won't have learnings attached.
Love ya, Jed.
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That was helpful. Thank you!
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You are most welcome....