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General Discussion / Re: *shrugs*
« Last post by Jed McKenna on February 23, 2018, 10:25:57 pm »
As the police say..''Move along now folks, nothing happening here... move along''.

Love ya, Jed.
General Discussion / Re: back to 0
« Last post by Jed McKenna on February 23, 2018, 09:59:34 pm »
If you want your desire to know to be gone, then find out. What's stopping you, really?

You are make considerable arguments for you limitations, you humanness, your thoughts and feelings.... find out what they are occurring in... the BIG context... but don't think you can think you way there. Your thinking is the problem and not the solution. But I am only speaking from my own truth... find out what it true for you.

Simple but not easy.

Love ya, Jed
General Discussion / Re: *shrugs*
« Last post by Maya on February 23, 2018, 04:54:33 am »
as always you're right jed!

Just an update since I've been away for a while

I'm starting to feel less than my body. I knew I wasn't my body however I am starting to embody it and actually feel it.
everything feels foreign. as I walk, as I type this, it all just seems strange. idk what the word Im looking for is. perhaps Im trying to explain the feeling of actually knowing that this Is just a dream. I see people wasting a lot of energy by taking themselves so seriously and sometimes I get the urge to continuously shake them until they've come to their senses. at the same time I'm not bothered and I move on. 
General Discussion / Re: back to 0
« Last post by Exis on February 23, 2018, 01:14:38 am »
Right now i've been feeling a void with no escape, justification, or redempetion, i'm both analyzing it and being consumed by it, and it hurst, all though if I had to be honest and say in terms of percentage it is 60% observation 40% pain. I don't know what do, there is nothing do, and yet it feels like there is something to be done, i just want this desire to know to be gone.
General Discussion / Re: back to 0
« Last post by Exis on February 23, 2018, 12:51:25 am »
In the end it's self preservation, I can't deal with pain and i don't even like the ideia of it. Everybody has a "story" that always goes likes this: you start as a baby...kid...get trauma...yadah, yadah, yadah. My traumas and fears aren't special, they aren't anything noble, but they are all that there is left once you go back to reality, and no amount of no-self can end them. I "started" this because "maya" decided to make me existential from childhood, *supposedly*. doesn't matter if it's real or not, the feeling of "oh my god, just show it or kill me already" is real. There's nothing behind nothing, no reason for anything, everything just is, any justification is in it of itself a lie. "entertainment" seems to make sense, but it isn't. what exactly is the point of this forum?
General Discussion / Re: back to 0
« Last post by Exis on February 23, 2018, 12:41:46 am »
I'm not human, but I have no other choice but to live as one. Nothing matters, feelings and emotions are what try to convince you that it's real, however, there is no amount of "realization" that will free you from them. When you get sick and it hurts you don't say "argh, what a dream, means nothing though" you scream and ache because the pain is a ****, sure when it doesn't happens "who cares" when it happens you don't no-self it away do you? are we just going to pretend that "the dream" doesn't have consequences and horrible things in it? And yes, i'm aware there is no-self, i don't control my words, thoughts, emotions, feelings, movements, life, i'm nothing but at the same time I am all, i'm awareness, this thing gets to see and be everything in this mess of an experience. To say something is "not real" doesn't make it "unreal"
General Discussion / Re: back to 0
« Last post by Jed McKenna on February 22, 2018, 10:52:17 pm »
If you want honesty, start with yourself. Stop pretending you are a human. Stop pretending that it matters if you are stabbed or robbed... I know what I know for me, and you need to find out what you ''know'' for you. There is only one thing that can be known for sure, but that's my story. Find you story... just never believe it because anything you can experience is not real. It has a beginning and an end. Find out what doesn't have a beginning and an end.

Love ya, Jed.
General Discussion / Re: back to 0
« Last post by Exis on February 22, 2018, 09:08:24 pm »
Yeah, i like the dream analogy when it suits me, it's easy to forget about pain and misery of the past when you are detached from it, but that is more cowardly than anything, we don't live in dreamland we live in "dream land", after you wake up you go back to sleep. "it's all a dream" won't stop me getting stabbed or my money stolen(something every dreamer needs), or making my "imaginary" scars heal.
yes I get that nothing matters, it's all empty, no purpose, no true grounds, no right or wrong, but this dream analogy acts like it knows everything when that is in itself a belief "all beliefs are false", or do you actually know why there is anything at all or what happens after death? 100% no doubt?

I just want honesty, that's all
General Discussion / Re: Belive in something
« Last post by abranpaso on February 22, 2018, 06:20:49 pm »
Enlightenment is quit searching,
quit searching everything... happiness, richness, success, knowledge, enlightenment, love...
and even quit the desire to reach the "quit searching state"
General Discussion / Re: Newbie
« Last post by AZS on February 22, 2018, 03:32:02 pm »
What has just been seen is that not only that the thoughts do not come from anywhere but that they also do not belong to anybody (neither to "me" nor to the "observer"). Further...
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