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Eleanoratoby

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2020, 05:46:26 pm »
I had a trauma trigger and my world **** open and I saw a little of what’s behind physical reality. Then I wanted to know more, what is this all about? I looked for a teacher and found one and 20 years later that all has crumbled down too because it had become too rigid, hierarchical and I was tightly bound to a perspective. Actually I don’t know why it crumbled because I’m just defining it in retrospect. I just know I couldn’t make the pieces fit back together. Now I’m here wherever this is.. and it’s uncomfortable. Thank you for your writings. They are helpful.

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2020, 02:08:55 am »
Dear E:

Thank you for your post and welcome to the forum. You journey, so far, doesn't sound that unique to me... but for you, I am sure it has many unique qualities.

Write me anytime.

Love ya and stay healthy,

Jed.

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2020, 04:43:20 pm »
Thank you, you are right. It isn’t unique and there is a sense of relief in hearing and feeling that.. I can let that story go, at least not make it primary.

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2020, 06:05:15 pm »
Dreaming a way out? I’m still dreaming of a way out...

Supposing it’s all a trick of the mind?

What do we know for sure?
Really nothing.
For instance, did history really happen?
We have never found any real relics from the past. All that we’ve found are the relics and bones that exist in our minds, from signals interpreted by our brain.
We don’t even know if its our mind? Even our brains that supposedly are interpreting and visualizing the data are a figment of our imagination. No one, including me has ever seen my or any brain directly. Always its through an interpreter. Maybe nothing exists outside of our imagination.
And where does this imagination come from? Whose is its?
What am I really?


What is true?
I am here now is true.
How do I know?
Because I can’t be anywhere else. There is only now.
Only now is true.
If there is only now, then there is nothing else but now.
Therefore only now is real.
If now is the only reality, nothing else exists.
Which means I cannot be anything other than now.
Isn’t that a belief?
Only until it is indisputably verified by direct experience.

The penny has not dropped yet.
Would appreciate any pointers...

Dream on..

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2020, 01:09:22 am »
Hi Flo:

How about you forget about the way out and focus on how you go 'in'.... just saying.

Much love and you are on the trail, eyes wide open, no fear, go for it.

Jed.

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2020, 04:37:36 am »
Dear Jed,

I am at the awareness stage. I see that anything sensed is just an appearance in the awareness. I don't get a sense of awareness, and how can I? Isn't anything sensed just an object of awareness and not awareness itself? I am in awareness when I am not limited by any object, but that realization only occurs when I am out of the state. How do I go beyond awareness? I've been searching and haven't found the way.

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2020, 07:02:26 am »
Are you separating awareness and the object of awareness. Awareness is a comprehensive thing, no object exists separately from awarness.

Much love, Jed.

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2020, 01:02:18 pm »
Dream in

My body is always aware of now.
My thoughts are not.
How do I know this?
Because I can safely drive home from work, engrossed in thoughts without any mental awareness of driving.
I.e I can arrive home and suddenly ‘wake up’ and think, wow I don’t remember anything about the drive home.
It was all on autopilot.
I am awake mentally and physically only when my attention is aware of now.
Does this mean I am attention?

When I introspect and ask questions, there appears in my mind, answers.
A conversation. It is a bit like having an inner guru. This inner guru is very well read. I listen without drawing conclusions..
Here is a recent question and answer session:

“What is true?
I
Define I.
The awareness of being here, now. Present.
Are you always aware that you are present?
No. I know this because at times I realize I am not not present, but in this realization I become present.
Is the present always present?
I assume so. Yes.
But you are not always present?
Correct.
Then the present is real but you are not.
Ok.
Why are you not always present?
Because I have thoughts, feelings, and actions that obscure my awareness of being present.
Are the thoughts, feelings, and actions permanent?
No, they come and go.
If those thoughts, feelings, and actions were to disappear, would you always be aware of the present.
Yes.
Then the thoughts, feelings, and actions are not real, but what remains when they are gone is real.
So only the present and the awareness of the present is real?
Yes.
Are they the same?
Yes.
The thoughts, feelings, and actions are what you might call the self. But as they are not permanent or real, the self is not real. In fact, there is nothing in a human that can be called a self in the way it is usually understood. Unless you want to call a loose collection of ever changing thoughts, feelings, and actions, a self.
How do I divest myself of these thoughts, feelings, and actions? Loosen their grip?
Through being continually aware of them, through being continually present. Knowing deeply that they are not real, not you.
Later, we will have to get rid of this notion of “not you” because as you will ultimately discover; there is no you.
Huh...”

It appears I know more than I KNOW.
But how do I get to experience what I know? Still waiting for that penny to drop..

P.s. Watched Vanilla Sky starring Tom Cruise, Cameron Diaz, and Penelope Cruz last night.. interesting movie..

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2020, 01:52:13 am »
We all know more than we think we know... but how do you know when there is no you?

Keep up, good rabbit trail.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2020, 10:33:30 am »
I’m late, I’m late, for a very important date...

“We all know more than we think we know... but how do you know when there is no you?”

this question leads to a fork in the trail:

If ‘I’ am an illusory, dream self, then it follows that ‘I’ have an illusory dream mind, containing illusory dream knowledge. None of which actually exists. (This appears to be a dead end.)

Or

Does this dream mind contain real knowledge placed there by whatever it is that’s real?

Further down the left fork...

What does it mean to “know there is no you”?
If I don’t exist, how do I know I don’t exist?
How do I know anything if I don’t exist?
Therefore something exists beyond the pronoun, that informs the pronoun?

p.s. Are the night dreams glimpses into alternate lives?

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2020, 01:53:18 am »
Night dreams can vary a great deal between humans. I don't buy the past lives sceneario, and thus future lives. Those ideas are just your memory bank desperately clawing for continuity. Dreams do sometimes have a predicitive quality, but in my experience that is more a matter of chance and coincidence. I think a more scientific approach will some day settle on my theory, it's just BB, (Brain Barf). Once again, the mind and memory seeking continuity... but they could well be coms with the big AI in the sky and we just don't have the capacity to decifer them. Who cares? Remember, you mind is a meaning maker and seeks importances everywhere, but mostly where they don't exist.

Much love, and stay healthy,

Jed.

Flo

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2020, 10:49:37 pm »
Reality is the source of the illusion?

To whom does this appear?
Itself?


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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2020, 02:06:26 am »
While marinating...

Have you noticed that in night dreams there are no thoughts? It’s all feelings and action. Immediacy.
It’s only when I awaken within a dream that there is thought. The awakening triggers the thought: “Oh, this is a dream..” Then the thoughts begin to stack up, one of which will trigger my awakening out of the n.d.


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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2020, 11:58:44 pm »
My experience as well... dreams are truly fascinating.

Much love, Jed.

Flo

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Re: After the accident... a brief story
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2020, 02:01:58 pm »
Spent the last few days chasing Ramana down the rabbit hole.. Curiouser and curiouser..

Ramana, the holographic prison cell revelation, the mysterious ‘nudging’ into present moment awareness from a state of daydreaming... slowly piecing it all together..

This life has been ego, all ego... lies disguised as truth.. truth hidden by lies..

A sense of unease, waiting for the fear of the void to arise... The void in which the ego must die in order for the truth to be told.

Fear... fear will be the tell