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Jed McKenna

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Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« on: January 19, 2015, 12:16:18 am »
Dear members:

I have discussed this matter a few time on the previous forum but a friend suggested I discuss it here for a moment. It's all about consistency, of which I have very little and display even less.

Who invented words? You didn't, I didn't, the 'system' did, i.e., Maya/ego. When we use words we divide the world up into this and not that. 'I'll have coffee please' also means I don't want tea, beer, whiskey or a lassi, thank you. If our world wasn't divided it would disappear (hmmm...). Language has contributed immensely to the human experience, include the fact that we seem to have survived... so far. Nothing with an upside doesn't come with a downside, except, in my experience, full T/R, but I digress.

Numerous times on the other forum, which had just a few vitriolic members, I would be challenged with something like, 'Back in blah, blah, you said blah blah now you say blah blah.' I intentionally didn't respond most of the time. If they were sincere inquiries seeking an explanation I would respond as best I could, but they were mostly very obvious Maya/ego enticements to argue a point. I'm a mini-expert on Sun Tzu Art of War and there was no way I would be boxed into taking a position per their dictates. Just my style.

But this whole communication and word thing is really the challenge and consistency is what Maya/ego demands, Truth demands naught.

If Maya/ego can keep you consistent and logical she can keep you in mind, no chance of Truth shining in. Don't schools, institutions, parents and the like want you to be oh-so reasonable, sensible, consistent and logical? Of course they do, they are all in deep trances and want you to join. Members of this forum exhibit different qualities, thank heavens.

Have you ever looked deeply into the eyes of someone who has been an accountant for 20 or so years? I not saying that accountants are bad, they just aren't the sharpest spiritual seekers in the world... but hell, that's just my observation and a huge generalization.

If there is reincarnation... which is something that I'm only partially convinced of, but that's not important... IF it exists, the I that is You comes back here for one reason only, IMHO, and that is for novelty or surprise. This may have been the novelty that Terrence Mckenna was spoke of. What does a child love, surprises! It's fundamental to our joy of experiencing here.

Consistency is the opposite of surprises, it's safe, it's secure, it's highly insured, but it's also about as real as ObamaCare.

Ralph Emerson sized it up well when he said, 'A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.' I suggest to you that any time you start feeling safe and secure you have stopped learning and growing. It's a good idea to continually look around you for something that is changing. This is not about being afraid of threats, it's about seeking out that little change that is never stopping. You will experience more surprise and feel more alive by doing this.

Blast right out and become God... what do you do next? You probably haven't considered this, but you will come back for the joy of novelty and surprise. This is why you see apparent inconsistencies in gurus who smoke, or drink or die of cancer, or perhaps lech, etc., (Caveat: I am talking about actual T/R gurus).

There is much to be contemplated here.

Love ya, (for the moment) Jed.

P.S. If you are curious about me, I don't smoke, don't lech, drink a little, have been known to dance until the sun comes up (I kid you not) and will probably die of a broken heart some day, in the unlikely event that I actually do die. But, any of the about could change in a moment, who knows ??? ??? ??? ::)

P.P.S. Just about the only consistency in my world at the moment is my love for you and admiration for your courageous sharing.



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guest278

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2015, 01:02:10 am »
Thanks Jed.  That feels like whole lot of room to move, for me.  Within my little cell, I've been known for unpredictability, inconsistency, changing tack et al.  It's just shuffling the deck chairs, but at least keeps me, and others, on our toes.  Maybe I'll start rattling those jail bars, make a bit of noise again for a while.  Get me some energy flowing..... and watch for the changes.
Thanks for your inconsistencies.  I love 'em.  And you.  xx

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2015, 03:33:15 am »
Nice post.

I'm going to Spain for a little holiday and my spanish is pretty much nonexistent. Might be for the better. Improve other ways of communication.

Also beautiful short video on novelty:


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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2015, 03:58:17 am »
Ah yes, Cannonball.  Thanks for the vid.   It's the newness and novelty in ourselves that excites - that's been my experience.  Even when we witness it in others it reverberates in the self.  Enjoy your holiday.

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2015, 04:13:08 am »
"I suggest to you that any time you start feeling safe and secure you have stopped learning and growing."  --> Yes I like! comes very in handy right now. Confirmed what I was thinking :)

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2015, 04:54:22 am »
 ;D

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2015, 04:59:46 am »
Re: being God...

Recently I was pondering the question "Why something instead of nothing?", so I asked God.  Answer: "Because I can."

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2015, 06:58:12 am »
 ;D

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015, 07:38:22 am »
We just try not to get the world too excited by not jumping into its little box of labels. When consistency and inconsistency are one in the same, who can have a preference.

Who can free fall without flailing.

Nice rant jedster.

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2015, 02:10:56 pm »
But Jed...

Wait a sec.  The further this goes, the less relevant (or something like that) "consistency" and "novelty" are seeming to me.  It's almost like I can just shift my own lens (like those big ol weird cool lens machines eye doctors have, when they say "which is better, this [click]?--or this [click]?), and I will see something either way--as part of "consistency" or a "novelty."  AND furthermore, it seems like sometimes something in me prefers the one lens view, and sometimes something in me prefers the other.

So are you just saying you prefer, and you think most other folks, prefer (maybe even crave) the "novelty" experience/lens?  If not, please clarify, if you can....

Thank you!
--Misha

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015, 04:22:38 pm »
Hi Jed,

You said, “Who invented words? You didn't, I didn't, the 'system' did, i.e., Maya/ego.” I have a question.  Is Maya/Ego some kind of force that enters in our mind and make us act or behave in certain way? I have heard it so many times including from you that there is no “I” or “Self.”  If so, where is this Maya/Ego reside?

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2015, 09:17:47 pm »
I'm with Misha on switching perspectives. Perception is consistant in its inconsistancies: lots of stuff is left out, ignored, etc. It's what some T/R gurus warn us against. Pointing to anything is not the thing itself. Language is just a pointing mechanism. Maya's mist. But what a show!

Great rant.


Jed McKenna

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015, 09:50:22 pm »
Where does Maya/ego exist? Where would any illusion exist. It's not a something but is more like (not the best word) a situation. Where does a smoking habit go when you quit? It must go somewhere? Nope, it never was anywhere to start with.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2015, 12:20:54 am »
Hi Jed,

So maybe your rant here in this case is just expressing your preference for novelty; maybe novelty helps YOU feel alive...helps YOU widen/open your awareness.  Maybe someone else--even someone else TR'd (I'm thinking Bernadette Roberts, but not just her) might feel fully alive & open wide to the wholekitnkaboodle even without lots of novelty in their 3 dimensional situation.

Maybe you have a TR version of ADD.  :)
--Misha



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Re: Jed rant, consistency and Maya/ego
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2015, 08:38:21 am »
Anything is possible, that's the beauty of novelty.

Love ya, Jed.