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Re: Jed Rant... Do you exist... really?
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2016, 06:45:55 pm »
An "I" experiencing anything is false, as in dual, the lie. Any inference of a "you" must preclude that "you" to be a lie. There is only experiencing. When a "you" experiences some "thing", that "you" is a false construct, the accumulation of a lifetime of mind's attempts to exist within the dream. Tatvamasi or "That thou art" is the reminder that there is NO difference between the experiencer and the experienced, no "me and my beer" simply experiencing. Any appearance of differentiation is merely ego. (I bought that beer, that's my beer, don't effing spill my beer!)... or not.

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Re: Jed Rant... Do you exist... really?
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2016, 11:36:06 pm »
Perhaps this bundle of opinions, beliefs, cravings would love to say "I exist". But, maybe it would be easier to locate a .000001 milliliter of the oceans chi and label it "moi". A planktons parasite that screams "I am and this is my life.
Perhaps, "I" am part of the "all/cosmos/as it isness" that has a nasty addiction of self referencing?

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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2016, 02:40:52 am »
Jed, it's easy.

For example, we usually can say "the plane is flying". Something doing something.
Our case is "the ... is thinking". Who or what is thinking? Nothing. I can't spot anything.
I can say "the brain is thinking" or "I am thinking" but it's just failed applying this to pattern "something doing something".

There is no thing that makes thinking process. Thinking process just happens.
Pattern "something happens" looks better here.

As result I don't exist. Nothing exists because only something existent can spot if something else exists.
Cogito ergo sum - this is for ego. Or not?

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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2016, 04:43:52 am »
All, if anything, is happening is looking, seeing, feeling, tasting and smelling. But the important point is there is no you required for this. It is just verbing away.

Love ya, Jed.
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2016, 05:33:48 am »
Do I exist or don't I exist? Which "I" would that be? That some thing which is thinking I exist must exist, but that "I" has no idea what that is... For the "I" it matters, for what thinks it it doesn't, but I am not the "I" I think I am, so what I am must be what thinks it, and that would be the some thing that thinks everything, which means I am that some thing and everything, though that "I" can't know what that some thing is. So: Do I exist? No I don't and yes I do.

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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2016, 02:05:24 pm »
I am the absence of that which is not. "Absence of that which is not "= Presence of that which Is. All that is . I am all that is .

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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2016, 03:55:00 pm »
Thought says I exist. People have been born without the ability to see, hear, taste, move the body, has anyone been born without the function of thinking, if so, would the idea of existance exist to them. Funcftional babies have been brought up by dogs monkeys and chooks, the thinking process conditioned into a belief of being a dog, monkey or chook.
The ability for thought to be abstract, has a function but also has a downside and that is the ability to believe in its own existence. maybe.

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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2016, 04:56:49 pm »
What does "exist" mean? If we follow the logic in The Theory Of Everything then whatever exists has to be infinite, or All That Is. It doesn't matter it's called Truth or I. What is usually referred to as self, the "i", is a limited phenomenon, thus doesn't exist under that definition. And i can not know I, obviously.

That's all good. But the whole thing hinges on the logical deduction that "Truth doesn't exist" leads to contradiction therefore it must exist. How much can we trust logic and concepts? Why cannot Truth be neither exist nor non-exist? Or maybe language just doesn't cut it. It's all just kidding when "i" speaks.

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Re: Jed Rant... Do you exist... really?
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2016, 04:33:52 pm »
Could you clarify "You are the absence of that which is not" ?

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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2016, 11:46:54 pm »
It's like a koan, and any koan worth it's sashimi can't be solved. That is intentionally to show you the solution is not in your mind.

There is no answer, at least, in the sense of an answer that a jury of 12 good non-existent men and women would agree to.

In another sense, you yourself are the answer. You are the answer to every possible question. Without this ''you'' the universe and all in it disappear. So does the koan. I have yet to meet a mind that welcomes such an event.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2016, 10:32:42 am »
I'm perfectly fine with the universe being here. There is no need for it to disappear.

Love, Mori

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Re: Jed Rant... Do you exist... really?
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2016, 10:47:17 am »
Dear Mori:

Ah...here's the rub. It's not up to you.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Jed Rant... Do you exist... really?
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2016, 12:07:25 pm »
ahhhhh, the rub. nothin' to do but relax and enjoy. 


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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2016, 12:26:28 pm »
Oh snap. :o

Love, Mori

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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2016, 12:35:36 pm »
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