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Jed McKenna

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Dear Members:

Some members/students have the idea that once one is T/R he/she will become a bliss ninny who goes around with a permanent grin and accepting of everybody. What is the reality of T/R? I can only speak from my experience, so here goes. 

One simple reality of this world is that some space suits are jerks, some are saints, some are going to cause you grief and some will share in your pleasure and add to it. Unfortunately, your mind is a poor determiner of who is who. I realized that a long time ago and decided that I would find a better reference point, i.e., listen to my body instead of my head.

When younger I traveled around the world for a few years. Went through countries that you can't even get near these days, you wouldn't want to. I wasn't that aware at the time, but I now realize that I was letting my body make most of the decisions. Now, it makes virtually all my decisions. I have refused Nav Series applicants based on what my body tells me to do and a little email communication (politely, of course).

Why spend hours of days in your head trying to make a decision when you body will tell you in a split second? I find myself (more accurately, my body) drawn towards peaceful happy people and it turns away from hassles and drama queens. The body has no analysis paralysis, it just does what it does best and is much more accurate than thinking.

Being fully T/R does not mean you wear a silly grin all day and love everyone like a long lost brother. There are no others to love, you are the loving acceptance (Truth) that they are appearing in. Having said that, nothing says you need to bring turkeys into your life. Yes, there are turkeys, but that is just their space suit and has nothing to do with the real Them... and at the same time your body can say... ''Don't go near that one".

If you want to grow towards H/A, then I suggest trying this. Start small. Perhaps by just saying something like, ''O.K. body, this one is up to you.''. Try not to hold any expectation of what will come. Trust means trust.

If you are in a social situation where you just don't want to invest the requisite energy, or you aren't enjoying the drama, you will find your body (probably) screaming at you to get up and just excuse yourself. Who cares what others think of you, that's their problem and none of your business. Over time you will fine a gradual shift in the type of people drawn to you. You see.. the hidden part of this is their bodies will know what your body is doing and it will assist them in making their decisions.

Your body is a remarkably sensitive instrument, but you have to let it do it's work without interfering with stories and thinking. I suggest you don't try to second guess it as well. It it wants to do something that on the surface appears a little strange, trust it and go along. It is wise than your mind is by a long shot.

Remember the feeling after you did something and thought, ''Damn, I knew I shouldn't have done that''. You body knew, but you didn't listen to it.

This has been my experience over many years. Your experiences are always welcome.

So, here I break my own rules... have a look at an enlightened family argue...

Best wishes,

Love ya, Jed.



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bree

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Wow ! You have highlighted the importance of the body ... probably the most mysterious, misunderstood thing in the world to control, to optimize or to Master.
May be it will be easy to listen to. I love my body ! Probably more than a dragon :D

The body is out there giving all the wisdom in the world , why look else where ? - I hear you Jed. What a shortcut ! Thanks for reminding :) :)

Love ya,
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("All men must die" in high Valyrian from #GOT)

PS : I read this post with Game of thrones theme music in the background.
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guest807

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Hi Jed,

Every time I'm around some people too long they try to put me in the box, hell, they would rather play inferior position to me than undefined and it seems impossible without being adult. Everyone people pleases or rise above the peasants. I come to realize that I never met any adult. Where are they?

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Jed McKenna

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Well, I don't know, but perhaps the Adults sense you are not... and well... just go around you, so to speak. However, that's just my hallucination, you will have to catch one and ask them specifics.

I can't say if my body would go around or not, we would have to be in closer proximity.

Love ya, Jed.

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It clears things up a little. I figure I just tried to be sentimental about people but there is nothing sentimental about grass-hooping adults.

Thought a lot about this lately. This is my conclusion, well no conclusion yet

Love

PS. ask myself when I grow up haha ok I might as well stop posting :)

Tetirtat

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How perfect that you address this in your rant. (It's all perfect of course...)
This is an exploration that I'm just beginning, body awareness and the intelligence and communciation of the body. In fact, I'm scheduled to speak again with the person that first showed me how to connect and listen to my body. It was a movement class, I was the only guy, and I felt like I had made a dumb decision to invest the money until of course, I started moving my body. I'm still reaping the rewards of that experience from two years ago.
Gratitude, Enlightened Dude.

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The body knows more than you think.. it's why I love dancing so much! A no-thinking rhythmic motion. Feeling the way through. Wonderful hallucination!


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Dear Jed,

I do appreciate your rant but i have a question. What about memories from the past which are stored in de body, can they not disturb a clear vision on someone, something or situation? I mean the body can store memories from the past which can show their influence when triggert, can't they? 
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Jed McKenna

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Letting the body do what it does means trusting it. You are talking about stories. If you have lived this long it has much more to do with your body memory than your thinking, but thinking will tell you it's about thinking. Right now it tell you stories about the body, that's not trusting the body. Either do it or don't do it, it's very simple.

Love ya, Jed.

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Wow, this rant was exactly what I needed to see as it appears that I've been allowing my body to determine when to take a walk and eat (instead of listening to rules from books I've read in the past).
Life is so much more better that way and so far, so good. I'm losing weight and want to lose some, but without stressing out or thinking about it much like I used to. The interesting thing is that it just happens without the stress and strain that usually accompanies the mind.

Another thing about the bliss ninny (lol) is that it's quite funny how we have all these ideas about what enlightenment would be like when we have no idea what it actually is.

I thought (ut oh) about something and something that sounds so tragic and horrible suddenly became beautiful the way it is. It appears, from experience and observation, that nothing in life is meant to last or work out in the long run. So, everything fails in the world in one way or another. If not now, then 10, 20 years down the road. All relationships fail it seems. Passion for job/hobby/etc fails. And nothing good lasts forever. And it's perfect the way it is! It would be a long drawn out boring 'death' if everything was perfect or the way we wanted all the time (no matter how much the mind complains and nags). Life would have no mystery or surprise or humor.

What is, is just fine.


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Well this is funny. This is something that Ive been experimenting with this last week. I noticed, I live mostly in my head for most my life. This seems to cause "analysis paralysis", and basically stops what might have been a natural reaction/action. What would you say about people who suffer from anxiety? Or people who have issues where they are unable to connect with others, and there bodies always tell them "get the hell out of here". I ask, because I suffer/suffered from my anxiety issues, but I find its because I am extremely sensitive to whats going on around me. One type of "space suite" I simply cannot and will not stand, is the "Im a super dominant dude". I cant stand it. Since realizing this, I allow my body to take over, and display the proper sub communications in any given setting. I find I don't get along with other space suites, who display this. But I used to come from a place where I would avoid everything. This came from an inability to relax, and as of late, its gotten much better. But this came through medication, and therapy. The results have been significant, but had it not been for the medication and allowing myself to be open, I may have never been able to change the pattern. Any insight on this type of thing?
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Jed McKenna

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Medications preclude insights, yours, not mine. Can't help. If anxious, just leave.

Love ya, Jed.
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I have noticed this alot lately-

i have a really weird issue with my stomach- whenever i am around certain people or have to talk to them on the phone- my tummy blows up like a balloon- and i get a headache

the problem is- it happens with MOST people -

so- it could be me- LOL  (well of course silly rabbit )

I have always been extremely empathetic and "sponge like" - I sense and feel people's emotions- I am super aware of small micro expressions- so, from my end- I think I pay WAY to much attention to other people- Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm- i think i just may have answered my own question
perhaps I should pay more attention to myself- mind my own freakin' business-

things that make you go hmmmmm-
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hmmmmmmm-

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Jed, I came into adulthood with deep childhood developmental trauma of physical, mental and sexual abuse. My mother f@#ked me up seven ways to Sunday. I've been a seeker all my adult life - not that I really knew it - but looking for nothing other than escaping the suffering of the heavy emotional thought cascades that occurred regularly, daily. Over the decades I'd gone to retreats, workshops, lectures, sat songs, therapy, PMA adjustments, ad nauseam ... desperate to find an antidote to the emotional torment of anxiety, panic, paranoia - mistakenly believing that 'spirituality' was the route to this.

Through reading your books I became intrigued with the concept of spiritual autolysis (SA); but confounded about exactly what's what. The one piece I didn't grok in your books was the thought/emotional percolating that ends up on paper.

Then I discovered a particular approach that I believe does much the same but is more structured - identifying heavy emotions as "senses of the soul". Much like the nervous system will alert us to the sting of touching a hot stove, our heavy emotions are an alarm that our soul is sending us that will guide us back to our birthright of serenity and contentment. This is what appears to be the same kind of pioneering work (well, elegantly re-packaging for a Western crowd) that you're doing with SA - a sort of 'self therapy'.

So anyway, I was guided to the work of GuruMeher (pronounced Guru Mare), a teacher (from kundalini fame) who's written a book called SOS - Senses of the Soul ("Emotional Therapy for strength, healing and guidance") documenting what he calls the seven heavy emotions: fear (anxiety, panic), desire, anger, depression, grief, guilt and shame.

Through regular daily breathe work that evokes the emotions in order to identify them, feel them and flush them, over time, each emotion is brought to the fore in order to ask it (i.e. ask our body/soul) what is it trying to tell me so emphatically? "What exactly is the danger and what is it threatening?" And being able to stop and listen and identify the source - my body? my reputation?  future prospects?  (Mine had been feelings of a deep inadequacy where I'm not smart enough, ambitious enough, lucky enough, simply, I'm not favored by the Universe ... mostly everyday, many times a day.)

I know that it appears that SA would be a fairly straightforward matter - regurgitating on paper. But it escaped me and, upon hindsight, I believe it's because of the degree of trauma I was laboring under. I mean those are pretty deeply grooved neuropathways. I've been doing the SOS work and developing new ones, it seems, that have greatly alleviated the panic, anxiety, etc. I'm headed toward serenity and feeling peaceful much of the time (I have more work to do).

So I'd be interested in your thoughts regarding the SA and being able to have a more definitive "how to" approach to show folks eager to work it (you used good examples in the books, but it escaped me) - and maybe this is what you're teaching in navigator.

However, in contrast, through the SOS, I'm now more in touch with my body/soul than I've ever been and hearing it quite clearly. I had been so strangled in the trauma, I believe, that only something really pointed and codified like this could stir the emotions to the top so I could work them. I'm also interested in whether you have noted the spectrum of heavily traumatized to not so traumatized - and whether it matters regarding who makes progress.

Thanks for your good work. Love ya, b