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Jed McKenna

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Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
« on: February 14, 2017, 04:52:14 am »
I appear to be down on meditation and prayer, but not really. I am trying to point out what is, in my opinion, the challenge with them.

Almost everyone engages in these activities as a means of getting something... get someone, some state of mind, but whatever it is, one doing this is spending time in fruitless endevours. You are going to get, and lose, many things in your human experience: people, loves, etc. in this dream... and when it's over you can be sure that you will lose them all because they were only an appearance. How else could a dream be. If this be Truthish, then why ask. Why spend energy affirming that you don't have something by declaring at a deep level that you are want of it when it's not even your desire. (de=of the, sire=father).

In my experience, a true desire for something will automatically bring it about at some time in the illusory future. However, very few of what you think you desire are actually true desires. Almost everything you think you want is just a story churning over in your head, a story that isn't even yours. It's a meme from your  schooling, family, peers, society, advertising, etc. (meme=mind virus and it's catching). You think you want things that your heart doesn't genuinely desire and then wonder why you don't get them (you are obviously a bad and undeserving person) or it takes so darn much energy (you are obviously very weak as well). And so it goes.. beating oneself up for not meeting expectations that are not even yours. Sounds a little silly, but I certainly did it once upon a time.

What if you have only one true desire... to realize your True Nature (Truth) and come to the home you never left. In my experience all other desire are pretty much insignificant.... but back to meditation and prayer. What does old Jed recommend.

Do whatever you want to do but make everything your meditation and prayer... by being as aware and conscious as you can in every possible moment. Add to that a little trust that what needs taking care of will be taken care of... not necessarily how you think it should, but always in concert with your true desire. Let what is be as it is .... a good mantra should you desire to use one.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2017, 06:17:07 am »
Thanks a lot for that, Jed. Very helpful.

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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2017, 10:59:58 am »
Cool, another down to earth, illusion level rant talking about the illusory world and it's mechanisms... Love those.

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Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2017, 11:21:42 am »
Oh perfect! Now instead of sitting down to get the thingy I can redirect the sitting down urge as a prompt to do something else to get the thingy.

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Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2017, 11:49:06 am »
Dear DT:

What thingy do you want to get?

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2017, 02:20:38 pm »
Jed, that is awesome! Thanks for sharing!

Can I post it on another forums? I think a lot of people need to read that!

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Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2017, 02:55:39 pm »
Jed, what does H/A mean?

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Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2017, 06:22:33 pm »
One more question. Is Maya the one who thinks?

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Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2017, 12:02:30 am »
"being as aware and conscious as you can in every possible moment" hmmm... I don't get it Jed, how can I be as conscious as I can all the time? I think I already am as conscious as I can all the time  ??? :-\

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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2017, 02:00:47 am »
Dear Alig: That's just a thought. If you can be .001% more conscious/aware with a little effort or change of attention then it's not a very accurate thought.

H/A = human adult(hood)

There is no ''one'' who thinks. Thinking just happens, like perceiving. Maya has many facets and is thus pretty difficult to define with a treatise on the subject. She is more of a pattern or habit, one that focuses on separation and she does everything she can to perpetuate that in others as well.

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2017, 06:37:22 am »
Thanks Jed

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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2017, 06:44:52 am »
I saw that on YouTube,  but I didn't understood it in the beginning. Now I am beginning to understand it. Or better said,  understanding is happening. The knowledge side of Maya can absorve the ignorant side of Maya. Maya itself gets liberated and in the process Jiva or the Atman,  the source sees that he is the source and stops identifying as a separated entity.

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Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2017, 08:19:13 am »
Jed, plaese explain what does it mean "being as aware and conscious"? Well, it's probably we don't able to being as aware and conscious correctly. In your books you wrote that people don't able to think and read correctly. I suppose, that we can't being as aware and conscious in right way. At least I'm not sure in my ability. Sorry for my English again :) I hope I've made everything clear  ::)

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Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2017, 08:33:46 am »
I can't define them because the defining of them would not be them and just confuse you. It/they need to be experienced. Are you aware of the fact you are reading this... are your aware that you are aware of the fact you are reading this? Then you are close.

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Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2017, 08:37:45 am »
 :) :) I hope i'm close  ::)