Author Topic: Jed Rant.. more on the I Am.  (Read 2665 times)

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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2016, 09:23:18 am »
Perceptions are real, I is not.

Perceptions are real, thoughts are real, even that "I" is real and every illusion that this "I" has and experiences is real... everything you encounter on planet earth and in the universe is real, but they are all not true.

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« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2016, 09:39:55 am »
A human being is a form of artificial intelligence.

Jed McKenna

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« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2016, 10:01:24 am »
O.K. Frits, real but not true... I am very careful what I call real because, in Truth, I have no standard for real. I guess it's a (or was a) bit of a cop-out. I call things illusions and I call my experience hallucinations... years ago I adopted that approach because I wanted to be more careful about believing things, at the time it was a sorta mechanism to keep me on the straight and narrow, yeh, sure...

One day, while doing my S/A, I go it!!! at a cellular level... this is all not-real and we are hallucinating everything, including our selves, into an apparent/illusory being and beingness. My b.s. verbiage had become my reality, perhaps better expressed as my non-reality. The wonder and freedom of not being anything or anyone was beyond words. All there is is Truth, what I call in the Series, ''infinite capacity for all that is''. Even illusion needs somewhere to appear to be, an illusion requiring an illusory context, in order to maintain further illusion and then, all combined... it appears in The Infinite Truth as the world we currently appear to inhabit.

There is nothing but Truth, and I mean NOTHING... but much appears to be, for your entertainment. It is staggeringly simple, boundlessly without limits, sights beyond vision, hearing beyond sound, sensing beyond any feeling, and everyone wants to capture it, control it, reduce it to their human experience... and then b i t c h because it doesn't seem to fit their expectations. Your human experience fits within Truth, but you can be very sure that Truth does not fit within your human experience. Un-explainable, un-imaginable, un-foreseeable, un-everything... it just ''is''.

Thank you Frits, you always seem to provoke the best in me (or, I hallucinate so) and I love you for it.

Cheers, Jed.


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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2016, 11:32:15 am »
People want material things or experiences because they believe those things are real. Material things can only provide what they can. People should not expect more from them, for instance should not expect those things to make them happy.

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« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2016, 11:58:43 am »
My pleasure, Jed.

But in the end it's only words trying to point at the unspeakable. Of course only Truth IS and everything else IS NOT, but everything appears to be (to me it apparently appears to be, anyway) and so we might as well pretend, or hallucinate (as you put it), it is real... while knowing it's not true or Truth.

If you think about it, it's a huge brainfvck and very funny... better not to think about it.


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« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2016, 12:07:34 pm »
Got it...

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2016, 09:51:06 am »
Yes, i can sense this I what seems to be the same as always. Its not the idea of who i am, that changes with the time to. This, being aware, awareness is really hard to grasp, actualy trying to see, experiance it, naming it describing it seems impossible. Really hard finding it pinpointing it and sensing it.

Jed McKenna

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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2016, 12:21:53 pm »
... stop trying!

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« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2016, 09:39:09 am »
Ego may get bored and want to change the scenery, but the truth is I will always be with myself. Even if I am with others, I am alone, because no one can really know me.
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« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2016, 12:48:09 pm »
I'm reading through the conversation and think, how someting that is Truth can be not real? Could you really encounter something that is not true? This is the stage I'm at.... The content of hallucination is not real, but the fact that I'm hallucinating and can't seem to be able to stop, IS real.
Like a guy watching tv is real, but what happens on the tv isn't... And then there is another thought that follows: the guy that doesn't exist watches tv that doesn't exist (hallucinates). And it depresses me

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« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2016, 03:58:00 pm »
Hi Jed

This is my first time writing and I have a question in regards to the I am(ness) when I was about 10yrs old I heard one of my mom's friends say something that I  thought was mean about me, as I sat there weeping, feeling devastated a sensed there was a watching ( really don't know what to call) I just felt watched and it pretty much made it impossible for me to feel sorry for myself, that sense has never gone away, is that the I am ness you are talking about?
Thanks
Des

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« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2016, 04:00:22 pm »
Hi there:

Interesting... do you feel like that sense thingy is you or someone else?

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« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2016, 04:15:42 pm »
that's a good question, I don't have an answer I've asked myself that question a few times it's just there

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« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2016, 06:18:25 pm »
Let me be a bit more clear, the memory of the incident feels like the "me" was being watched, so it felt separate, after that...I can't say it's it ever been so distinct again. As life has progressed there is always the ups and downs of emotions, over time I don't get as caught in them (as much or as long  :), but that distinct sense of being watched that separate feeling is not there as it was that one time as a small child.

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« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2016, 07:10:45 pm »
LOL....now I understand why I see people keep talking....after you ask a question...

I also wanted to say that it felt like the person who was sobbing(the 10year old me if I call it that) felt like in being watched the tears somehow felt fake) that the whole experience of crying was fake. basically I couldn't really feel sorry for myself, but again I can't say for sure if it was separate or mee, it feels like I should say it was separate but it was a long, long time ago...all I can say is that experience changed me but not is some huge way or anything