Author Topic: Jed Rant.. more on the I Am.  (Read 3554 times)

Lian

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Re: Jed Rant.. more on the I Am.
« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2016, 11:32:41 pm »
Everyone lives in one's own cell. That means each person believes different lies. These lies come into conflict because each ego wants everything for itself. However, people lie to each other, so they seem to respect each other, to believe each other's lies (they all close their eyes to not see the obvious, practice doublethink). If they saw the truth, they would probably kill each other. In war, people probably come close to honesty.
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Re: Jed Rant.. more on the I Am.
« Reply #61 on: October 31, 2016, 08:51:43 am »
As I expand my consciousness, I realize I already had the things I once wanted to acquire.

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« Reply #62 on: October 31, 2016, 09:30:38 am »
I Remember having one of those euphonies  with respect to seeing that only the appearances, which include the form or the body/world change, almost makes you feel that you haven't moved an inch, like where would, or could you move to, now of course if one is identifying what one is, with what just is, then ones moving, but not that is utterly not that. Hopefully this makes no sense, cannot be understood, but probably will be. OH WELL. you win some, you loose some. 8) ;D

Jed McKenna

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« Reply #63 on: October 31, 2016, 12:11:26 pm »
Congrats Winston, absolute baffle-gab. Love it, and you.

Jed.

Lian

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« Reply #64 on: October 31, 2016, 01:23:36 pm »
Actually, I understand Winston.

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« Reply #65 on: November 01, 2016, 03:40:21 am »
 ;) ;) ;)

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« Reply #66 on: November 02, 2016, 03:14:44 am »
i must be stupid, because i don't understand virtually anything...
 
to me there is just one lie, and expanding the infinite must be a hard job

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« Reply #67 on: November 02, 2016, 03:30:44 am »
"Some small sense of you has always been the same"
Can we be completely contained by this small sense? Only consciousness remains unchanged? And if the "I am" is everything, and is the truth (unchanging) then > nothing changed and nothing can ever change.

I think I can feel the **** sometimes but if I ever lived it I'd be forever alone (understand I was and will be forever alone) - and that's a scary one.
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Jed McKenna

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Re: Jed Rant.. more on the I Am.
« Reply #68 on: November 02, 2016, 05:47:41 am »
The I am is definitely not everything and unchanging JJ.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #69 on: November 02, 2016, 08:25:52 am »
(understand I was and will be forever alone) - and that's a scary one.

jjtech. I've felt several times this fear of "realising I'm the only one and feeling alone" and what gives me peace is the realisation that the untruth / egoic me is not alone, it is surrounded of other apparent people, and the True me, awareness, is not an individual, so sure it can experience feeling alone, but also friendship, infatuation, motherhood, ... but all these are part of the human tragedy, don't apply directly to awareness.

It's like if you teach a parrot to say "I'm sad because I can't write poems", it can look sad to people but doesn't affect at all the parrot. In this example people are the untrue egos, and the parrot is awareness.

At the same time I think we shouldn't avoid the sadness you are referring if it happens, it may be a door for our egos to admit their limitations, and it is always another experience enriching the movie in awareness.

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« Reply #70 on: November 02, 2016, 08:27:46 am »
The I am is definitely not everything and unchanging JJ.

What do you mean? how can we know the Truth of something else than "I am" and when do we experience a change on that?

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« Reply #71 on: November 02, 2016, 09:51:52 am »
how can we know the Truth of something else than "I am" and when do we experience a change on that?

You can't and you don't.

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« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2016, 10:13:06 am »
how can we know the Truth of something else than "I am" and when do we experience a change on that?

You can't and you don't.

You got me! But what about awareness, can awareness know the Truth of something else than "I am" and experience a change on that?

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Re: Jed Rant.. more on the I Am.
« Reply #73 on: November 02, 2016, 12:15:57 pm »
Words and opinions matter little. Find out for yourself.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #74 on: November 02, 2016, 12:30:49 pm »
how can we know the Truth of something else than "I am" and when do we experience a change on that?

You can't and you don't.

You got me! But what about awareness, can awareness know the Truth of something else than "I am" and experience a change on that?

You may question if "I am" is the Truth. If it's not, then what could change? And if it is, what needs change?

Answer that and "awareness" is of no importance.