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jjtech

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Re: Jed Rant.. more on the I Am.
« Reply #75 on: November 02, 2016, 12:48:39 pm »
"The I am is definitely not everything and unchanging JJ."

what can change about I'm/consciousness?

what else is there?
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« Reply #76 on: November 02, 2016, 12:53:35 pm »
I am a soul, a spiritual being inhabiting a material body, a human being. Most souls inhabiting people identify with their bodies and with the stories created around them. Knowing that I'm not the body, I can have a more realistic point of view about it. For instance, I, as a spiritual being, may be infallible, but the body is not. The body is a relative thing, an object, with clear limitations. Similarly, all the stories about people are centered around finite, material things. Knowing this, one can be more realistic and not a drama queen.

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« Reply #77 on: November 02, 2016, 01:20:01 pm »
Is that true, Lian? Do you really exist as anything? A soul? A spiritual being in a material body? Sounds like a lot of Buddhist manure to me. You're not the body, sure, but you're not you either. So what's left?

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« Reply #78 on: November 02, 2016, 04:03:08 pm »
Everything is an embodiment of no self. We are actors in a theater play. I get the humans expectation factor. If you teach a dog to sit and after a dozen attempts he appears to sit down, the next thing one could probably expect is for that dog to sit again cause it somehow worked. Same with Truth. You can have had glimpses of insights, but like being said in another Jed rant, it's just an experience. It's dogshit now. Further! There is no thinking about it, or knowing it. 

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« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2016, 09:11:28 pm »
I have divided my mind and now I can pretend I am not alone. Instead of seeing One, I see many.

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« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2017, 02:53:22 pm »
The problem with accepting I do not know what I am is that I would have to give up the beliefs about what I am.

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« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2017, 11:08:10 pm »
Got it Lian:

So, are you saying that your limitation (jail) is better for you than freedom (H/A, T/R) and you don't want to drop one for the other because it would entail giving up (false) beliefs (all beliefs are false because they change from time to time).

I know I have said that T/R does not submit to human logic, and it doesn't, but for the present purpose and because we are talking  in the human dream, I don't get the logic of you thinking.

Note: I always leave open the possibility that I have misinterpreted what you said so don't hesitate to clarify if so moved.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #82 on: December 08, 2017, 05:16:01 pm »
The one thing is me...the witness. Anything else is changing, faster or slower. This thing remains, me living  (witnessing) this life. The sense of identity is given by the fact that i am witnessing through this slowly changing body, this point of view, or "geographic" location, and rememberance. It follows that it is rather funny how i manage (or how cursed i am) to wake up each morning in the same point of view. Some dark forces must be at play. Some forces that escape my witnessing. Oh yeah, like witnessing means i got some superpower... I am everything, and everything is nothing... Aint it great

Jed McKenna

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« Reply #83 on: December 09, 2017, 12:25:27 am »
Great is good, but doesn't begin to describe full blown T/R. Go for the gusto and nothing else.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #84 on: December 20, 2017, 02:07:20 am »
"... but something has remained the same. Some small sense of you has always been the same...."

When I 'forget' everything, the world, my experiences, who or what I think I am, memories, just everything, I come to a sense of something that's always been there. It's home, it feels familiar, like the ultimate safety because it has never changed.
I could find it by a kind of sinking, yes just letting go, though I didn't use those words. Before I got into spirituality it was easier to find, I was still innocent then. More honest. If I was worried or in fear or the world sucked I ( sometimes) went there, to that place.   
The 'I'   got small and smaller and what I found was not .  No 'I am' over there, and don't know if I would call it awareness.   words are swords cutting apart.
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« Reply #85 on: December 21, 2017, 01:33:04 am »
 :o :o :o