INVISIBLE GURU FORUM

Hi Jed,

I tried twice, yesterday and today. Yesterday when I first tried it, for the first step, 'do it with a 'me'', I was OK. Yet, when I proceeded and tried to do it without a 'me', I was a bit agitated because how could I possibly do it without 'me'? The more I tried to 'get rid of me', the more I have 'me'.......However, I went all the way anyway and finished. Nevertheless, I did notice that in order to perceive as a perceiver, there must be some distance & space between me, the perceiver, and the perceived, that is sound or feeling or sights. Today I relaxed more and gave myself more time to do it. This time, when I tried to do it without 'me', I only focused on the perceiving (listening, feeling, looking) without thinking about getting rid of 'me'. This time, no distance/space was noticed that much. And also it seems the scope of awareness is enlarged without a 'me', or maybe it's just my thinking/imagination.

Unfortunately, neither time I could shrink myself to a pea or enlarge it to the universe. This step is beyond my current ability. I will keep playing with it later on.

However, I do get your idea of 'a perceiver and a perceived is a type of learned response'. So, what I need to do is to unlearn it, right?

By the way, I had a good nap today when I closed my eyes to work on feelings today. Sorry, I didn't mean to slack off. It just so happened, with the sun shining above me.