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Jed McKenna

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2015, 07:43:59 am »
I hear you but don't get any specific question.

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2015, 07:46:50 am »
What do I do for the suffering?

[Please don't say "find out who is suffering" because that doesn't work for me.]

Jed McKenna

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2015, 08:17:30 am »
Well, you have blocked my main punch. So, I will be brutally honest.

Continue to suffer. Can you do that?

Don't mistake this for a joke, I am serious as a heart attack.

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2015, 03:09:47 pm »
@CJ
"My intellect covers up the fear of not being listened to as a child.  Fear of not being good enough to win attention.  I'm not hiding from anything, but I am resisting suffering, obviously." 

Other than physical suffering, your EGO - your ATTACHMENTS are what produce mental suffering. Your intellect (and Maya) are your antagonists.

Let the attachments go.

Lurker trying to help.....
Ray

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2015, 06:42:54 pm »
Hi,
I just got on the forum and was following the thread-'jed rant on techniques part 2'.
In Jed's last post he suggests returning to the instructions in 'rant #1'.
Unfortunately i can't find it.
Would Jed or someone mind posting it again.
From what i gathered from these posts it's like shikantasa. Which, as i understand it, is sitting without any object, which includes 'me.' Perception becomes broader as attention on thoughts become peripheral, which creates this pulling and contraction like phenomena,it seems.
Looking forward....
thanks.

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2015, 08:56:10 pm »
« Last Edit: May 27, 2015, 08:57:49 pm by mariam »

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2015, 10:01:03 am »
thank u :)

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #52 on: June 15, 2015, 02:09:41 pm »
yes, that is a good description; a small me and a me that reaches out to the universe, depending on whether I am focused on percieved or perciever. Soon I'll close this page and start doing "all the things I need to do" along with the accompanying emotions, etc. How do I practice being the big me in the face of the stuff of the dreamstate. The exercise you suggested seems a type of mediation. Is doing this daily helpful?
Thanks Jed.

Jed McKenna

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2015, 12:31:36 am »
Dear Entity:

I suggest we communicate through your thread. The more you can share the more pointing I can provided. Keep it concise as possible.

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2015, 01:30:38 am »
i. i lie down. i breathe. i feel cold. what is cold? constriction, contraction, tightness, spasm. i burrow deeper in the blankets. after what i call a time, contraction ceases, eases. breathing is easier, less constricted. melting. melting follows. still i am. i am melting. am i?

a warm wave, rising in the posterior cervical spine, undulating through the shoulders, the thoracic, the lumbar. like a geologic record, wanting runs the course from the i impulse felt behind my closed eyes, down, down, down, through the circuitry, culminating in a full-body throbbing, aching, absence of something, pressing against 'something else'. the thought, 'i'm lost in it, lost in this press'. then judgment. wasn't Truth what i wanted? Truth is 180 degrees from the cusp of thought-induced orgasm. or is it? is that what this is?

let go and find out. right? who would choose? who let's go? desire is prime ground for locating i.
just release. no releaser, no released. not even a thing to be released from or into. already unmistakably free (or interminably deluded).
just waves, without declarative cause or claim. it's all there seems to be to me. even that is an assumptive stretch...

further questions always arise, or at least they have thus far. tides are predictable, but to whom?

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #55 on: October 09, 2015, 07:09:17 am »
Just found this tonight.

Without a "me", sound has no distance, and sensations no form.  There are no edges anywhere.  With seeing, there is no me - just everything else.

Re-creating "me", a hardness takes form - purely created by a thought.  "I" is just a tiny weeny pinprick of  thought!

"I" leave the picture, and everything is just there as it is, filling the whole space - like nature abhorring a vacuum.  There is a feeling of 360 degree awareness, or no centre - yes, amorphous.  It's actually a bit spooky. Nobody here.  It's completely impersonal.  Only with "I" is there anything personal.

Thankyou Jed.  I have a very strong thoughtform telling me to sign off and get some sleep.  Taking this to bed with me, and into tomorrow.

Fleet


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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #56 on: October 09, 2015, 07:32:26 am »
Good work Fleet, or.. .no-fleet.

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2015, 02:33:34 pm »
Hi Jed,

I can concentrate my perception inward and then let go and have it expand so that I'm previewing much more than my immediate surroundings even though location is lost. But this happens only for moments before my breath brings back the false perception that I am a body needing air to continue the perceiving . How do you drop the awareness of the "need" to breath?

Cheers,

Pat

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2015, 07:47:56 am »
Dive into it, consciously breath, properly, and then consciously slow down.

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Re: Jed rant on techniques part 2
« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2017, 12:05:47 pm »
Jeez... wish this topic came up on my screen earlier, but having figured it out on "my" own was a really big deal. *puts a Medal  🎖On*. The process somehow happened backwards though: first somehow the whole ego substructure collapsed one February evening: the time was seen as a Rolodex of neatly organized memories flavored by emotions existing nowhere but in the mind; thoughts, every identity layer, all identifications,watercolors of the mind as projections of the future time, all just collapsed as dry pine needles from a tree. Just a weird sense that this non-my-not-personal body just moves around, sensing, tasting, smelling, seeing, hearing. Non of the processes/sensing can be stopped. Just going on it's own. No need for me. Nothing personal. Just functioning. Just happening. Was curious. Now, when two months later ( yes, took that long, dumb) I figured out that it's not only "me" - it's every-body,  all of the humanity, every single body is like that, that got a bit freaky. Haha took another two days to finish the puzzle: put "my" body and other-every-body in one whole picture. Was neat... before the next "vomit" of SA started a few hours later: and all the transparency, matter-less-ness of every perception (seeing, tasting, hearing, smelling, thoughts etc) was seen through. Only now, only perceiving, matter-less, meaning-less, self-less. Nowhere to stand. Still trying to get used to this. Just watching. I know, further. And special thanks to "Fritz" for leading "me" to this post even though "he" doesn't know this :)