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Jed McKenna

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Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« on: November 01, 2016, 11:44:20 pm »
Frequently forum members share experiences that they think are ''special''. In most cases they seek some such confirmation from me. I usually give them a pat on the back and almost inevitably tell them not to try to repeat the experience. In my experience one should never try to repeat any experience because T/R is not an experience. Here is something Nisargadatta expressed well.

... all experiences will lead you to is more experiences. Expect nothing from experiences.

But hey, don't stop sharing your experiences, not for reinforcement but just to get them down on paper and out of the way. They will get in your way, big time, if you let them. Just thank them and say... further.

Love ya, Jed.

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Mr. Nobody

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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 12:08:41 am »
what exists other than experience?
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Jed McKenna

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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 02:30:24 am »
Experience arises with the imaginary creation of the ''I''. With the disappearance of the ''I''', so goes experiences... time and the universe as well.

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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 05:25:50 am »
Isn't experience only the story the "I" tells itself to make itself believe it exists as that specific "I"?

And isn't every story untrue? As is every specific "I"?
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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2016, 11:04:06 am »
I pretend this rant has ever happened. Nor did I read here anything. I can think I do, just think about it. But that ain't truth.
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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2016, 07:23:42 pm »
Jed are you not experiencing?
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Jed McKenna

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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 01:53:46 am »
What I Am is Truth and Truth (the Infinite Capacity for all that appears) never experiences anything. It's a little like a giant window. Light just goes through it... assuming that it's not covered with the dust-of-Maya. This is the reason that the universe disappears upon full-blown T/R, there is nothing to resist it. Experience is only resistance to an arising. The universe and all that appears to arise in it arises solely via resistance created upon the arising of an ''I am''. What I (really) Am is not that I am, however, staying with that I am is an excellent contemplation and was used by Nis as directed by his Guru (Hindi for ''teacher''). Ramana described that contemplation as ''Go back the way you came''. The way you came is through the creation of the I am.

Within Truth there appears to be a body, but that is not What I Am. That body and attendant  bodily experiences (what I appear to be) have nothing to do with What I Am.

If you find that confusing, excellent. Please re-read it... frequently.

Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 02:24:02 am »
Experiencing happens, or so it seems, no fuzz.

When this experience gets judged, based on 'knowledge' (from 'experiences from the past' - memory basically), there arises the sense of 'I', being in control. The projection of this imagined 'knowledge' as being true / Truth arises with it. Which is (causing the illusion of) another 'experience'.

Only option is, sit back, watch the show, and see how effortless action 'happens'.

While all the while, all of that - including what's shared here - has nothing to do with Truth whatsoever. (That would need something like knowing the unknowable, which would be quite impossible.)

At least that's how it 'seems to be experienced' 'here', atm.
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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2016, 02:35:26 am »
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Experience is only resistance to an arising

i thought arising itself was experience?
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Jed McKenna

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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2016, 02:57:29 am »
You can never be aware of Truth. That would make you great than It, able to embrace it. These are not possible because Truth is infinite. T/R is realizing that Truth Is, which can be done, even though it bears a variety of names, they all point to the same thing. 

Measuring is pretty abstract. I suggest you just keep doing what you need to do. T/R may or may not happen and it's not up to you because there is no you.

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. Please don't ask who wrote this because I have no idea.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2016, 04:18:45 am »
"THEN WHAT?"

Then nothing. Who cares?
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2016, 04:31:27 am »
Quote from: Ahab on November 03, 2016, 04:27:04 am
That is a demonstration of callous ignorance. Let's do it as an algebraic problem, to illustrate this:
 
Ahab is x, in his car, y, travelling to location b.

If x is suddenly shown that there is no x, what happens to y and b?

Frits: Nothing, who cares.

If that's you're opinion they should confiscate your license.

Hahaha, I have no licence, but anyway, the answer is still "nothing". Why would anything happen to y and b? And if x is gone, who is there to care about any of it?

What probably will happen is that your body will park the car safely on the side of the road without you realizing it.
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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2016, 05:00:26 am »
Is there a 'y' and a 'b' if 'x' is gone? Is the world the projection of the mind?
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2016, 05:17:20 am »
Okay, but algebra was never my forte (really really bad at it), but I think I can answer it all by saying that T (being Truth) has nothing to do with xyb, so you can't detract it from xyb nor does T use or need xyb. So it's not T that inspires x to turn off the radio, it just happens... as in: there is the turning off of a radio.

"will x's next choice alter its relationship with T?"

X has no choice and isn't in relationship with T.

But this X here needs to go to "work" now. ;D
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Jed McKenna

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Re: Jed Rant: Something from Nis.
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2016, 07:30:05 am »
Always remember, the map is not the territory.

Love ya, Jed.
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