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Jed McKenna

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Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« on: February 27, 2016, 12:30:41 am »
Dear Member, Lurkers, Shill, and yes, you Hillary supporters too:

"What do you really want?". Sounds like a set-up question for an new age seminar. O.K., maybe it is a set-up, but let me hallucinate and see if you agree.

What you want is simple, happiness without any sorrow. Just sit with that for a moment. How  does it feel? Not depending on what anyone else might think about it or you and not depending on any anticipate Jed (El Grando Poobah of the Lodge of Lost Souls) response, is this what you really want? Not what you say you want, have told the world you want, but what you really want? No need to over complicate things, just happiness without any sorrow. I'd pretty confident that it is what you want, so what is all the hoopla about Truth Realization/Enlightenment and the like?

I think pointers will work best here:

1.) Not to be diminished because I think it's a biggie, T/R is very cool, it's in vogue and has drawn millions to it's promise, which promise is often unspoken.

2.) Ah yes... the promise. Call it bliss, non-duality, Advaita, anything you want, the implied promise is release from the sufferings of this world and what you really want... happiness without any sorrow.

Contemplate how many weird and wonderful things you have done to attain HWAS. I'll bet you have done a myriad of activities, acquisitions, etc. BUT, have you attained HWAS. I'm not talking about the brief form of excitment and anticipation many folks interpret as happiness, I mean an enduring HWAS. Really look into this, has the super hubby or wifey brought it, the great job, the new car, degree, house, travel adventures. That form of happiness is transient at best and almost always is follow by a ''come down''. I wouldn't even call it happiness, it is actually a slightly quieter state of mind experience after a frenetic trying to get the happiness-related-thingy.

This quieting of the mind is the only real and enduring HWAS and what you experience as emotions (conversations in your head about physical experiences, feelings, in your body) is the continuous disruptor of that sense of peace. I have said it before and it bears repeating.

Emotions promise that they will give you by keeping them,
exactly what you get by releasing/letting go of them.

Emotions are not the answer, they are the problem. Look around you at the things in our system that are designed to churn up your emotions. They are everywhere. How may things, out there, are helpful in quieting your emotions. Does TV quiet them, advertising quiet them, education quiet them, society, war, institutions, courts, governments, police, armies, or, how about getting down to basics, were your parents competent at creating peace and enduring happiness in your family which you could model when older. Mine sure weren't but they taught me a heck of a lot at an early age, and I am grateful.

Remember, a feeling is something you can experience in your body, a pain, pressure, heaviness, maybe butterflies. An emotion is a conversation about a feeling. This is a very practical distinction to make. Which is closer to the now, to reality, to direct experience; a feeling (in your body) or an emotion (conversation in your head)?

Back to my question, what do you really want? In my experience H/A can bring happiness, wonder and joy. T/R is unimaginable and indescribable. depending on how adult you are, it can be very disruptive until settled into. I strongly suggest growing up (H/A) prior to pursuing T/R.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it for a least the next 10 minutes.

Love ya, Jed






 
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Kati

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2016, 02:57:15 am »
Thanks Jed  :-*

Love,
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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2016, 05:27:35 am »
H/A seems attainable by the characters in the play, by effectively learning and applying what is learnt in life, this seems to make circumstances more preferable.
T/R however, seems to just happen when it happens.

Love, Mori

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2016, 06:11:26 am »
For as long as I can remember all I really wanted was the truth. I never cared much for happiness.

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2016, 06:54:38 am »
All I can say to what I want, is to simply be. Like George Clooney would say, "What else?"

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2016, 07:06:56 am »
 ::) :P 8)

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2016, 07:20:43 am »
I WANT my cup of tea, and I WANT it now!
with suggar please but not to much.

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2016, 09:42:29 am »
Wanting the peak experience without the valleys is a futile game. Indeed a childish understanding of the way things work. The ups and downs are the same thing from my point of view. All just part of the ride. A necessary contrast. 

Seeing that one cannot exist without at least some understanding of the other is the true freedom that one gains from experience. When one truly understands this only then can one appreciate both for what they are.

It's all happiness, love, abundance, bliss or whatever feel good you wish to insert at that point. This side of the void it's all good.

Jed McKenna

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 10:30:46 am »
One of my points was don't confuse happiness with Truth Realization. Human Adulthood is about happiness, and paving the way to T/R with a more gentle integration of it into what remains of your human existence.

It's not that complicated. First grow up then find out your True Nature.

Love ya, Jed.

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2016, 10:54:00 am »
It's actually not complicated at all. Perhaps a more profound understanding is that it's not a step by step process rather than an understanding that all things, thoughts, experiences are empty in essence. They are permission slips to feel. Happiness is a choice. Not a path. TR seems to be the popular permission slip around here. I prefer to skip to the end result. No method required. Although feel free to "grow up" first if that's what you think you need.

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2016, 11:07:09 am »
Needles to say there is no choice, not for happiness nor for T/R --- and choosing H/A is probably futile also, that last one I don't know cos I skipped over that one without noticing.

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2016, 11:31:07 am »
Consequently there is so much free will, in fact it's all that there is, that one can choose  that there is no such thing as choice. It's **** wonderful :D

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2016, 11:53:34 am »
The reason why there is no choice is of no importance, because every answer to a "why" questions is "because", as we all know. So, whether or not one thinks to be smart by explaining there is no choice because there to much choice, the fact remains that there is NO choice.

Arguing is circles does not make one smart or wise, only dizzy.

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2016, 12:10:08 pm »
Its all getting a little confusing for me.
Do I have a choice or not?
Please make up your mind, or is it ALL just mind make-up?

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Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2016, 12:13:53 pm »
It's whatever you want because that's what you want.

Who cares what someone else says.