Author Topic: Jed Rant: WW II and T/R  (Read 1668 times)

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Re: Jed Rant: WW II and T/R
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2018, 10:14:28 am »
Most of us here believe, feel , understand. , that life  is manifestly on its own  and we don’t have much
Free will choice.   Other than to Be .  But can we talk about the happenings here on earth ?    I find.   In the play.   With people there is a certain game in life
It’s who agrees with the one with power.  Or.   The wiser one , and then it all starts to be a sucky game of bullshit .
I mean Jed.  Can you share a little of your perspective on the dynamics.  Of the human beings on earth ?
I tend to feel  is just all **** up with ego silly stuff .

 
 

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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2018, 11:34:45 am »
So what sense does it make? There's only Entertainment that makes sense. The person who "I" thought I am is for entertainment with all that's happening. Who's the one to be entertained? No-one! The real Me behind every-thing, that can't be found.

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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2018, 02:33:11 pm »
Of course it's a sucker game... rife with b.s. Just look around you. Could one really believe it is real and that people are truly that stupid. We murder people, poisons ourselves and fail to obey the most simple and obvious laws of nature. That this entertainment is the only explanation possible. But, don't buy my stories, what is your world like. What are you experiencing, really experiencing without your stories. That's all that matters.

Love ya, Jed.

P.S. Think as best you can in any situation, but understand that it is all a set up, and you are the punch line. Now go and have a little fun.

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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2018, 10:27:54 pm »
Haha. A sucker game ,  haha.  It sure as hell is , I don’t do much  but I have fun just being me , smoke cigs sometimes, why not ? Do what I want ,,,  but I’m just talking about the dynamics in life are so **** up .
Even so called enlightened people  want to play the no it all ,,, there’s this dynamic that you have to play ,,

Anyway ,,,,  what I think you’re saying is.   Your experience is different than mine. And why and what is mine like .
Personally I don’t like people that much find it difficult to find the reason to get anything from them .

Just my thoughts.  Thanks there Jed 

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2018, 12:52:32 am »
Sounds just fine to me. Enjoy the ride and don't take it too seriously. This human dream may well be nearing an end soon. Anything with a beginning has an ending. Smile at others and treat them as best you can. Never forget ... you are in ''your'' dream and they are in theirs.

Love ya, Jed.

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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2018, 04:47:08 am »
Thanks for sharing, Kelly and Jed.
Well appreciated conversation.  ;)

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Re: Jed Rant: WW II and T/R
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2018, 05:15:34 am »
Hi Jed, Noah, new here.

I definitely feel really sharp ego kickbacks whenever I try to delve deeper into T/R. I will typically fall into a cynical depression and tell myself that it is finally time, and I normally read your books to push myself further but it seems as if the little bastard fizzles and I find myself in a good mood, and kind of convince myself that I'm fine and that there's no real point to keep going further. It feels that my life is slowly breaking into pieces, which I've come to terms to but I really don't have the means to cut ties(18, no job.) I'm also struggling with guilt because my girlfriend loves me(as much as any human can anyways) and it breaks my heart to hurt her, even though I understand the pointlessness of guilt.
I feel as if I'm really at an impasse; I can't keep living this story out but I feel that what it takes to destroy it is more or less impossible for me right now, even though I try when I can.

I guess all I've really wanted to ask is whether I should pull back or be the kamikaze... but I guess that's for me to answer. Still unsure.

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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2018, 06:02:11 am »
Hi there:

Good questions. At your age and circumstances I would suggest you do pull but and watch very closely... what the lies, b.s., stories, hurts and guilt BUT with a very focused determination to do absolutely nothing at all... be the disinterested witness, at least for a while.

Love Jed.

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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2018, 06:09:27 am »
Thank you Jed, really appreciate it

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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2018, 01:16:34 pm »
(This is not a poem)

When It's a cat, It plays as a cat and It chases the thread
When It's a human, It pretends to be a human very well, and from the thread It makes clothes, and It sells them for paper
There are no events, no nouns in the universe, It invented words to trick Itself, in order to misunderstand with Itself
Of Beauty It doesn't take pride, of ugliness It does not think bad
Poetry is the closest to It, only million dark years away
Yes, you! You can't exist if you are not It - so stop pretending
Is there enlightenment here?

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Re: Jed Rant: WW II and T/R
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2018, 02:36:30 am »
Hi R:

Welcome to the forum, I don't remember hearing from you before.

Help me understand what you mean by ''here''. Thanks in advance.

Love ya, Jed

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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2018, 08:30:50 am »
Dear, Jed.
 I'm from Russia, so I apologize in advance for some mistakes in my letter. I'm 19 years old. At the beginning of this year, I came across your first book and read it for a couple of days. Soon I read all the others, except for "A nice game of chess", because I did not find it in Russian translation. For some time after reading, I was overcome by a gloomy and depressive state, which, incidentally, coincided with my exception from the first year of medical institute for failure. At about the same time, my parents broke up. After about a month in unison, I began to look for work. For some time I worked in cell phones store. One morning, going to work, I felt a burning, terrible and incredibly strong desire to give up everything and surrender to the will of the universe. So then I understood surrender. I felt I need to give up and become a homeless. But then I overcame that desire. I do not know how correct that decision was, but I returned to my life. Now I have re-entered to another medical institute, where is a slightly easier program of training. However, periodically I have it happens cognitive dissonans. I think a lot about the escape, about complete and irreversible surrender. So here is my question. Can I choose a less radical way of realizing the truth? For example, to practice spiritual autolysis, memento mori and testimonial in my spare time? How true is my understanding of surrender? Recently I have been trying to just not identify myself with my personality and not resist emotions. I let them through myself. It gives a tangible effect. Especially during stressful situations. I feel freer. I understand that it's stupid to ask you what I have to do in this situation, but I would like to know your view of my situation. Is it worth taking any actions or just keeping calm and letting things to be? Thank you in advance for the answer.

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Re: Jed Rant: WW II and T/R
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2018, 08:39:25 am »
Thank you for sharing, you English is quite remarkable. Giving up doesn't mean you have to change anything, other that the belief that you are real, that others are separate from you, that you are important and have memories, etc. You can surrender to everything that arises and still become a Putin (ahem... if you wanted). The outside, job, living, family, etc. don't have to change, it's your belief that they are real and substantive that needs changing.

Write any time.

Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Jed Rant: WW II and T/R
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2018, 09:14:19 am »
Thank you very much, Jed. Your answer really really helped me.

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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2018, 09:21:08 am »
(a fox caught the only Maya in my poem)  :)

This Here: first comes theory and relativity in high school and the deep metaphysical questions - It goes on a silent unconscious quest, It tells no one;
                It does its share of university thinking – It doesn’t find Itself in mathematical formulas;
                It gets a job, It puts a costume, It gets in a relationship, It loves, but there is still a hole in the stomach;
                It comes home one day, drunk, watches the sunrise above the ocean – It writes the first poem (about the Sun), It sees first time truly
                It quits job, stays in bed, books is everything It needs – rides the bike only to check if the world is still out there;

Philosophy (words are arbitrary) - Christ (I am a soul, great!) – Sufism (Love for God!)- Hinduism (ego death) - Zen (void the void) – Jed McKenna (c’mon I felt this, I knew all the time, I kinda don’t fell alone anymore, last book I need to read); with special sauces: memento + illegal chemistry;

This here: Before It goes to sleep at night, It feels stupid for everything It said during the day - It wants to stay quiet and shout to people to listen;
This here: It spends more time with cats than people, It laughs at Its own stupidity, wants to be loved and accepted, but feels too far away of
                everything
This here: sometimes two inches above the ground (it catches the poetry that passes by), sometimes in depression (It observes it)
This here: that understands everything and everyone It reads about, but cant see Itself

* It feels false when It speaks in prose a.k.a. "From bathtub to bathtub I only uttered stuff and nonsense"
(deep thanks for your time)